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Broadstruck 1816 Canada Waterloo Half Penny Token ?

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 Posted 05/17/2019  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Could the dies be misaligned, and that is edge of the collar, with a Rim Fin? I don't know enough about how these early coins were struck, to know if this is legit or not. The obverse certainly looks convincing...
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 Posted 05/17/2019  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
I don't know it this is significant but the diagonal reeding is evident all the way around. It isn't as sharp where the lip rises but it's there.

But something interesting...this is the 10-string harp variety. According to CoinsandCanada, it's supposed to weigh 4.5 grams whereas the 8-string weighs 5 grams. This one weighs 4.7 grams so it's Above it supposed weight strangely enough.
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 Posted 05/17/2019  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
SPP-Ottawa - A ' Rim Fin' as you put it, is another name for the raised lip ?
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 Posted 05/17/2019  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
missing area is too uniform to be indent strike I think. Dies appear aligned. The tapering is exactly how a clip should look. hmmmmm
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 Posted 05/19/2019  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
Is it possible this is struck over an indent strike?
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 Posted 05/20/2019  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
@Alan - I don't know much about the strike process, can you elaborate...
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 Posted 05/20/2019  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
The portion of the coin was either sunken in before it was struck, or a piece of crescent moon shaped metal was sitting on the edge when it was struck. What's strangest about this one, never seen an indent strike where the indented portion is backwards. How would a coin lay over top and make the indent? Would have to have been a crescent moon shaped piece of metal?

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 Posted 05/20/2019  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
As you said, is it possible the coin was not sitting flat when struck...that's what I'm thinking.
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 Posted 07/28/2019  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
overstruck on a host with an incomplete clipped, that subsequently de-lamm'd after the restrike,

that... or... aliens...
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 Posted 07/29/2019  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I contacted Mike Diamond, a coin expert. Maybe he can help?
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 Posted 07/29/2019  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Before offering an opinion, I must ask you if the unstruck crescent is recessed relative to the die-struck surface. It looks like that might be the case, but it could also be a visual illusion.
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 Posted 07/31/2019  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
@mikediamond not sure exactly what you're asking...
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@Errers and Varietys - thanks for contacting mikediamond
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 Posted 07/31/2019  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I don't know how to make my question any clearer.
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 Posted 07/31/2019  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TaeKenDo to your friends list
@mikediamond - ok, I just reread your question and checked the photos and understand what you are asking. I would have to dig it out and will do so and get back to you soon on that. Thanks in advance for your help, appreciated.
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