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1965 FS Jefferson Nickel. Very High Auction Price. Full Steps?

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 Posted 09/08/2019  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
OP...

Don't be discouraged. This is all a learning process and it don't get "learned" overnight! You are not wasting anyone's time.

The 46k$ nickel is one of those things that NEVER, EVER gets busted out of it's slab because the Grading Gods might not see it in the same light again. This is a crazy hobby/business and funny things can happen.

Chances are, and the odds are pretty good, that out of some of those other 131,000,000 +/- 1965 nickels might also be full steps and might even grade 67 or 68 FS.....they just haven't been discovered yet. If so, and one gets slabbed that high, what then happens to the poor smuck that paid 46k$ for his 66? His top pop 66 nickel just got shot out of the saddle and the newly crowned king of 67 or 68 will become the standard of excellence and command the new benchmark price. Does his 66 still warrant 46k$? Is it even worth half that?

It can get crazy when you think about it.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list
Appreciate the encouragement western. Yes, I am new, but enough time to have already seen some crazy things 'coin'. I get that pricing dilemma you explained. But the more I get into this, no matter the wins and losses, it just makes me more determined to learn this business. I love history, and coins are definitely a big part of history, and tell a story. Like my Mercury Die Clash I posted. Very cool accidental find. I contacted Jason Cuvelier on Mad Clash web site. To see having it added to the other six already attributed. Awaiting his reply, but if done, I get a coin published and a great example of coin history regarding Mint variety's, etc. Not bad for a newb. Lol

And just got this gorgeous nickel for $18. A keeper. Looks like one of those rare 1964's, but I think it's a proof. He is not a seller who has bunches of crazy toned coins. That is sure sign of AT. This was only one he had. Nice to add to my pile. Display, etc. Even if fake, it looks really smooth. Lol


Anyway...thx again for the positive attitude.


1965-FS-Jefferson-Nickel.--Very-High-Auction-Price.--Full-Steps?
1965-FS-Jefferson-Nickel.--Very-High-Auction-Price.--Full-Steps?
Edited by BuyGuns
09/08/2019 02:09 am
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 Posted 09/08/2019  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Looks NT to me, lovely Jefferson, and westernsky is right on the money about the odds eventually not being in that coin's favor!
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 Posted 09/08/2019  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list
Yea. Heck...for the fact it is pretty I will throw it on the grading post and see what folks think. Too much fun. :-)
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 Posted 09/08/2019  03:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Nice looking 1964 nickel....it looks proof to me! Best guess on a grade would be "67".

As long as you enjoy the hobby is really all that matters. I step back every once in a while and take a break but always come back.

I've been collecting and accumulating since the 1960's. I've done a lot of stupid stuff but have hit my share of "home runs", too! I try to stay interested, active and offer encouragement to others.

I can attest that this coin community ...CCF.... is the best. There are a lot of great and knowledgeable people here that are willing to share their knowledge. All you gotta do is ask!
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 Posted 09/08/2019  04:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list
Understood western. Fantastic folks on this site. I love I can ask their opinion. About 18 months for me off and on. I retired from my second career. Early, as I made some good investments, savings, plus monthly retirement Thank You's from my past jobs. Haha. So among other interests, this has been a nice addition. Got my nurse daughter getting into it to. In fact a bit earlier she asked about the 1943 penny thing. lol. So I let her in on that, but said look but don't waste too much time on that coin. Better chance hitting the lottery. But she gets it now, so keep an eye out. :-) My three adult sons at least listening. :-) Peaking their interest. But enjoyable for sure.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thankfully, FS nickels are one addiction I don't have.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list
Coinfrog...that's a good one. :-) Just in the short time I have looked at this Jefferson nickel history, and all the variations that come with it, I am more confused now than ever. Lol. I get the basics. Just too many unknowns. But I love a challenge. I will keep digging as I go. That's why we have CCF & TPG's. Amen
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 Posted 09/09/2019  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

Quote:
Thankfully, FS nickels are one addiction I don't have.

Detecting FS Nickels could fry your brains especially if your a senior collector . One would need at least a high powered loupe or better still a decent microscope . Don't let this discourage you from sorting these Bad Boys out , the monetary rewards would be overwhelming .
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 Posted 09/09/2019  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I'm not a fan of any Jefferson nickels. I have several sets but only because they are coins.
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 Posted 09/09/2019  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuyGuns to your friends list
Understood gentlemen. I will only throw this point out there as you guys commented. I did do more research. Still nothing conclusive EXCEPT...on PCGS Coin Facts, where they show the only two or three SMS nickels, led me to Newman Numismatic Portal Washington University, which led to a Heritage Auctions Catalog This is a portion of one of those SMS descriptions:

"This piece shows an amazing, sculptural depth of detail that is uniformly absent on business strikes, yet fully equal to the strike on a proof coin. The finish however, is non reflective, with heavy die polishing lines that are a theme with variations on the 1964 SMS coinage. On the reverse, not only are the five Steps complete (the bottom sixth step is not), but most of the small steps on the porticos on each side are complete as well..."

HA also has a description for an SMS again from a PCGS grading. It says this:

"This piece is razor sharp, with the characteristic faint die striations in the fields. Each side displays a blush of light Gold toning, and the preservation is virtually flawless"

My points...other general descriptions I found state similar 'no sixth step" about SMS, although does that mean on 'some' variations, or all? And the 'Golden toning' is a common theme as well. Yup. But who knows.

I'll find out about my coin when the professionals tell us what it is. "That's a nice Proof sir"

Or the highly unlikely scenario..."Congratulations sir, it's a SMS. A Beauty."

Or, not beyond the realm of possibility as I saw some beauty's..."That's an exceptional Business strike sir."

It's fun to dream. To hope.

Much more to learn

(NOTE: I have the microscope LOL. Showed those pics from using it on Buffalo nickel posts. Very useful tool. Onward....)
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09/09/2019 9:11 pm
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 Posted 09/10/2019  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Anyone else besides me think that $46,000 nickel is NOT FS? (I don't care what the TPG said, we have all seen "full step" coins in TPG holders that aren't FS.)
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 Posted 12/11/2020  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djstheman to your friends list

1965-FS-Jefferson-Nickel.--Very-High-Auction-Price.--Full-Steps?

A close up of my 1965 Nickel's steps.
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 Posted 12/11/2020  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
First, djstheman, to the CCF!

Second, do you realise you posted in a message that is well over a year old? To receive replies I'm sure you'd like, I suggest that you start a new thread of your own with your coin.


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 Posted 12/11/2020  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djstheman to your friends list
Thanks buddy!! I wasn't reading the date, as it was like 1 o'clock in the morning. My search popped it up. Even if it's a year old, it's still fun reading, but mine won't get viewed by any cool, knowledgeable people.
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