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Rubbing Two Nickels Together

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 Posted 10/04/2019  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
iPhone snapshots aren't the greatest pictures, but this will give you an idea. The damage is self-evident. The bend comes from a good smash across the face, from the mouth to the hair bun. It looks like whoever dug this was working freely with a pickaxe. The silvery gouge on the reverse is due to reflection, and it's golden in-hand. The weight is 8.0 grams, which is about right for the wear and abuse.

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I used a modern quarter to rub against because the metal is harder. I'm working on the obverse of the half eagle right now.

At this point, the only effect is high point polishing on the rim Cuds and the bust.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/04/2019 6:48 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2019  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Very tough coin, fascinating project. Have you sought any advice on improving this?
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 Posted 10/04/2019  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Nothing other than the old adage coinfrog. It will always be a pocket coin. I'm just trying to smooth off the sharp metal edges. Any other ideas? If it graded it'd be about F-12 or 15, but the bend and deep gouges pretty well finish it off. Maybe if I work it down to an AG, but that would take years....
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/04/2019 6:59 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2019  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
Let me get this straight, you have a "nice" but beat up $5 gold piece, that you are trying to wear down, trying your best to make it into an AG grade coin? Am I missing something here?
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 Posted 10/05/2019  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
This "details" coin has two virtues merclover. Rarity and bullion value. I don't think it would straight grade even if were worn to AG3, due to the edge damage and the bend. When I got it, it would snag cloth.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/05/2019 07:54 am
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 Posted 10/06/2019  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
I'd give it to a kid.
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 Posted 10/06/2019  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I will carl, but not today. I've given them beat up cc Morgans and cobs. So far only one of them has caught the collecting bug.

That coin is 200x scarcer than a 1916-D Mercury. They wouldn't appreciate that....they'd sell it to buy Magic cards....
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 10/06/2019  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonnin to your friends list
its rare enough that I would leave it alone. Sell it to someone who does not mind the condition.
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 Posted 04/12/2020  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Not Mint to Be to your friends list
It will never get a straight grade. Looks like a road kill coin.
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 Posted 04/13/2020  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
With jonnin . I would have left it alone and put it on the bay emphasizing how rare it is .
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 Posted 04/13/2020  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Since posting this, it's been in my pocket with other coins, and is now pretty smoothed on the edges. In attempting to flatten it I dented it some more, but it does lay flat now.

The original purchase price is now melt value. The original ebay seller didn't get any added value for the rarity. I haven't seen another one in any condition in the last six months.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 04/13/2020  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add benv to your friends list
I'll definitely put my vote toward leaving it alone, I'm sure there are collectors out there who can't afford a straight grade but would still like to own that kind of rarity. Heck, at the right price, I'd have a hard time saying no, gold rush SF gold always catches my attention.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
If the goal is to try to make the piece halfway respectable, maybe have a jeweler or similar who's good with metalwork try to work on minimizing/repairing the big problems (file down the edge issues, maybe touch up some of those field ticks). Once that's done, THEN pocket piece it some (though not down to AG!) to restore a more honest look to the surfaces after whatever "help" it gets.
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 Posted 04/16/2020  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add YourGeorgiaPeach to your friends list
Whether people are for or against it, I can't deny this is a pretty neat little experiment, haven't seen anything quite like it yet. Good on you for the progress you made, it's a relief that the coin was already details so not too much value was lost.
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