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Pillar of the Community
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No question , just thought I would share! Some others might have questions though!
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Valued Member
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I do have a question: What is the origin of this coin?
I find it very unusual. Having both denomination and queens portrait makes it a legal coin, not a token.
Also, the normal 2006 test token has 3 ribbons on reverse and no queen on obverse.
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Pillar of the Community
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Send it to PCGS, get it dual slab with the issue coin, most likely a test token or coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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Don't send it to PCGS, who knows whatthey will call it.
Send it to ICCS with your backstory so it can be correctly attributed and appear in future catalogues.
It is a coin and not exonumia, the first thing you should do is contact coinsandcanada and have them list it in a more appropriate section.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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03/08/2020 4:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I can ask coins and Canada to list it somewhere else but I guess it's up to him as it's his website. What would ICCS label it without confirming its origin? I know where it's from but not many others do.
I do know it was a pattern test piece. There are to my knowledge only 2 that survived the lab testing they underwent.
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Pillar of the Community
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If you get a chance to meet Sandy Campbell of Proof Positive coins at major shows he is a PCGS dealer if he get's interested in this coin with some background info it will get slab as a pattern test token, dual slab it the original issue coin and your off to the races. The beaded toonies, the recent fish, flag, 1234 tokens from the Vancouver money show are in PCGS pattern test token registry.
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Moderator
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Not the first time I have seen that. In fact, I saw one back in 2013 and another in 2015. I suspect they are patterns or trial pieces. Not sure if one has come up to auction. If I do ever get my hands on one, no doubt, I will document it properly and get it added to the Charlton Catalogue - then, I would put it in PCGS holder. Quote:
Send it to ICCS with your backstory so it can be correctly attributed and appear in future catalogues. DBM - go ahead and try that with the brass GML trial piece I sold you. Let us know how that goes. As for mine, they went into PCGS holders. https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/co...strikes/3812"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm an old fashioned traditionalist and as second rate as our Canadian numismatic institutions are I would still give them first kick at the cat.
I rue the day when PCGS or some other US entity becomes the de facto primary cataloguer of Canadian coins.
We have already allowed them to undermine the traditional grading of Canadian circulated coins.
I have no desire to slab any coins I intend on keeping in my collection.
I only submit coins which I am about to sell if it's advantageous.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Quote:
I'm an old fashioned traditionalist and as second rate as our Canadian numismatic institutions are I would still give them first kick at the cat. We did with ICCS. Twice, with extensive notes. Both times they came back body bagged with no explanation. So then we approached Sandy Campbell, who agreed with us that these were trials - and he took them to down to PCGS. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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I live in the US so PCGS could be an option but what proof would they require in order to Slab the coin with a pattern/trial designation?
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
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Ideally a letter from the RCM or some articles or supporting evidence that this is a trial, test of something |
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Pillar of the Community
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So I would need to find someone from the Mint to vouch this is a real coin.The photos are out there so if anyone has a connection at the mint who verifies this type of thing please let me know!
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
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Just buzz the RCM a letter, they sometimes are really helpful but most of the time they are not very helpful on simple questions regarding mintage figures. My first advice of contacting Sandy Campbell will be your best bet, he is at most large US shows or just contact PCGS |
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Pillar of the Community
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So, finally received a response from the mint validating they did in fact produce this coin for test purposes. Maybe now I can send to PCGS for certification.
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Pillar of the Community
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The RCM never ceases to amaze me, you caught them on a good day, congrats ! A PCGS dual slab would be the way to go |
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