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1989 Lincoln Memorial Cent - What Is Or Caused This ?

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 Posted 11/11/2008  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list
I think this is a explanation of the varieties of errors. Coin World http://www.coinworld.com/newcollect...striking.asp

And the best one for beginners from there site is this one:

Machine, mechanical, Strike Doubling: A form of doubling, this is one of the two most common types of Mint errors. Some do not consider it an error, but believe it to be a form of Mint-caused damage.


Mechanical Doubling
Most, however, believe it a true form of error coin. The cause is a looseness of the die or other parts in the press which causes the die to twist as it comes in contact with the surface of the newly struck coin. In twisting, the die drags the metal of the raised designs to one side, creating the doubled image. The doubling is flat, like a shelf.

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11/11/2008 1:17 pm
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 Posted 11/11/2008  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list
OK no problem
thanks for info
is it worth keeping?
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 Posted 11/11/2008  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
It looks possibly like a Retained Cud.
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 Posted 11/11/2008  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Why not use the CC glossary?

http://www.coincommunity.com/dictionary/
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 Posted 11/11/2008  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris1222nascar to your friends list
Is it the whole roll of coins or just one coin?
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 Posted 11/11/2008  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
condor:
Retained Cud?
I can't disagree, but?
but it probably became a Cud in the nest few strikes.
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list
its one coin so far I have several rolls that I got at one time and that one was on the end of the roll or the begining of the roll
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
I agree that it is probably a Retained Cud but I would still like to see the entire obverse just to be sure.
If it is a Retained Cud, it is certainly a keeper- much better than a regular die crack but not quite as nice as a full Cud.
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11/11/2008 5:07 pm
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list
I would keep it! Why not
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Yep, the full picture confirms it for me- retained cud- nice find
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 Posted 11/11/2008  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
I agree, a very nice Retained Cud...at least a $10 coin!
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 Posted 11/11/2008  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list
great thank you guys for the help
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 Posted 11/11/2008  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alex Swanson to your friends list
Looks like a die crack to me. Nice coin!
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 Posted 11/12/2008  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

Quote:
condor:
Retained Cud?
I can't disagree, but?
but it probably became a Cud in the nest few strikes.

Let me explain my thinking.

The crack appeared to go rim to rim and the field level on the inside of the curve seems to be higher than the field area outside the curve. But the design is was still visible. This would imply that the piece of the die has broken from the rest of the die and has shifted in position but os still held in place sufficiently to impart its design to the coin. Retained Cuds typically occur on the anvil die because the piece of the die breaks loose and shifts downward but is held in place and prevented from falling away (retained) by the collar. If the piece then manages to fall away or is driven down far enough that it no longer imparts its design and it becomes a full Cud.
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