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Jefferson Nickel On Penny/Copper Planchet

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 Posted 07/23/2020  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add navycapt1635 to your friends list
OK. I weighed the nickel on copper. It is 3.0 grams and the regular Jefferson nickel came in at 5.0 grams. I'm attaching some more photos. Thanks for the great advice! Bill

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 Posted 07/23/2020  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephm99 to your friends list
It does look correct though. Might want to get Mike Diamond in on this one.
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 Posted 07/24/2020  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
With the weight and the new pictures most of my doubts have been answered. Still not 100% convinced but I am now leaning toward it being a nickel struck on a cent planchets. If so, it doesn't look well kept, which would hurt its value.
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 Posted 07/24/2020  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list

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If it were a nickel on a cent planchet it would be total rounded and not uneven as your coin shows.


Not necessarily true, the cent planchets aren't large enough to completely fill out the nickel dies, so you would expect some sort of unevenness and stretching on areas that don't reach the edge of the die, fairly consistently with this coin.

I believe it is a genuine nickel on cent planchet error, but Mike Diamond can confirm it for sure.
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 Posted 07/24/2020  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
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 Posted 07/25/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephm99 to your friends list
Any updates on whether this coin might be the real deal?
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 Posted 07/25/2020  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
All that we need is an image of the edge of the coin in question with a cent on one side and a nickel on the other so that we see all three at once in an image. That would be proof enough.
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Something like this, but have all three, where you can see the edge sizes and the view the face of the coins. That would solve the whole issue.
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 Posted 07/26/2020  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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All that we need is an image of the edge of the coin in question with a cent on one side and a nickel on the other so that we see all three at once in an image. That would be proof enough.

That would depend on what portion of the edge he shows. If this is a nickel on cent planchet, it was close to one side of the coining chamber and as it spread in that direction it met the collar and formed up the rims. In that are it could very well be the same thickness as a regular nickel.
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 Posted 10/30/2020  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add navycapt1635 to your friends list
All,

FYI, I brought a few of my coins to a local dealer, including this one. I asked if it was a genuine planchet error and what grade he thought it was. He measured and weighed it and, without answering the questions, offered me $35 for it. I declined. He had a pretty good poker face, but I could see was interested. He then offered $45. I again declined and left. I had a friend with some experience look at too and he thought it was genuine and estimated its grade between AU 50 to MS 62. I found this recent sale on ebay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PCGS-5c-19...47675.l2557) and IMHO, it looks very similar in quality/grade.

Best,

Bill
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 Posted 10/30/2020  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
I still maintain my opinion that it's a genuine cent planchet on nickel dies, but it should really be sent in to a TPG if you wanted to sell it.
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 Posted 10/30/2020  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The reason the strike is weak is because the thickness of the metal was not normal because of being a cent planchet.
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 Posted 11/04/2020  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add navycapt1635 to your friends list
All,

I brought a few coins to a local dealer, including this one. He weighed and measured it and, despite his "poker face", I could see he was interested. He offered me $35 for it, which I declined. He said he could go to $40. I told him I'd think about it. Can someone please estimate its Grade?

Thanks.

Bill
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 Posted 11/04/2020  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
Definitely worth a lot more than $45 if genuine. Don't sell it to such an unscrupulous dealer.
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 Posted 11/05/2020  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCents to your friends list
Please DO NOT sell it for $45 as Sam said. If it's genuine it's worth quite a bit.
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 Posted 11/07/2020  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
All the evidence indicates that this nickel was struck on a cent blank (most off-metal errors involve blanks, rather than planchets).
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