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Double Checking.found 1909 S With VDB

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 Posted 03/11/2021  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kcm to your friends list

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I don't recommend this.



Thank you, @nss! I'm sorry I wrote that! My bent was to pass the vexation to a professional in the industry to manage.

I do not -- for one millisecond -- question the wisdom you offer, but I would love to understand the major forces that underlie that wisdom. Honesty, ethics? Compassion for the next buyer? Respect for the hobby? All are valid in my book. Did you have other(s) in mind?

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 Posted 03/11/2021  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Honesty, ethics? Compassion for the next buyer? Respect for the hobby? All are valid in my book.
Agreed.

Your opinion means I have to give more thought to my reasoning. So, I feel better about the coin once he made an offer, but still do not feel the best.

In other words, this and the other opinions of the members have me feeling the TPG cost has less risk than the typical find we have posted here.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I also would not knowingly sell a fake. It would be unethical, and it would keep a counterfeit coin in "circulation".

Your coin dealer seems reputable. Although I believe the coin is not genuine, I still believe it's worth a trip to a TPG to confirm.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
I have heard good things about the dealer OP took the coin to, also they had the ability to see the coin in hand, as opposed to pictures. Seeing as you're also in south florida, I would use this link (https://www.PCGS.com/dealers) if you have not already, to find a dealer who can send it in for you.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ABS21 to your friends list
@Ploopy thank you, yes I have looked at PCGS, ncl..many dealers wanting to buy but none so far wanting to help submit..I have made a few calls..waiting for replies..to help with submission..in the meantime I downloaded the ANACS submission form....also looking into area coin shows....thanks everyone!
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 Posted 03/11/2021  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list
how exciting! I hope for you that it turns out to be genuine. it looks like the real thing to me, but I'm not anywhere close to being an 'expert' on it. to me the wear looks authentic, and a few other things point toward authentic, but that doesn't mean it is. I agree with everyone above: take your sweet time & continue the quest for authentication. good luck to you!
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 Posted 03/21/2021  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertRansom to your friends list
You should check out this NGC counterfeit article on this coin.
https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...ncoln-Cents/

The "S" on your coin is fat, not like the four known shown in the article.
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 Posted 03/21/2021  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eddiespin to your friends list

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You should check out this NGC counterfeit article on this coin.
https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...ncoln-Cents/

The "S" on your coin is fat, not like the four known shown in the article.

Hey good lookin, whatcha got cookin? Don't I know you, lol?

But yeah, that mark looks funny. And I'll just betcha a shiny new dime some if not all of those dealers who offered to buy it but wouldn't submit it for him had their suspicions too.
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 Posted 04/21/2021  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
The pics here from ABS21, can anybody verify my observations? I thought that the lower serif on the S is supposed to align north to south, not slanted like this one is and also on the reverse, the letter B of VDB is supposed to be slanted in the middle, not straight as depicted in these pics.
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 Posted 04/21/2021  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Another indicator on a genuine coin is that the S mintmark should have a bump in the upper curve of the S. It is the same mintmark used on the 1912s Liberty nickel I am told.
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 Posted 04/21/2021  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Here is the difference between genuine and counterfeit. Photos from PCGS


Double-Checking.found-1909-S-With-VDB

and here your coin.

Double-Checking.found-1909-S-With-VDB
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 Posted 04/22/2021  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
To my eye, with the OP's coin, less wear on the 'S' than everything else.
A case to have this coin authenticated, via a TPG.
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 Posted 04/22/2021  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fury to your friends list
Awesome coin. Got some value here!

to the CCF!
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 Posted 04/24/2021  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I do not know why we go so far? It is not a real.
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 Posted 04/24/2021  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Get it graded and check for 1922 no d and weak d in those rolls.
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