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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After reviewing your photos, I believe my original claim was correct, it is damage. If it was a clip, there wouldn't be a reeded rim present on the "clipped part" on the coin. Looks like it was somehow smashed into the coin instead, so it would be PMD. |
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Valued Member
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Thank you. But see how it's reeded? How can that be if damaged. Thanks and sorry. Figured out just have to edit pics before posting.
Edited by NTesla
04/13/2021 07:03 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Sorry but that is PMDThe reeding is showing because it was retained by the collar which puts the reeding on the planchet so the coin would have to have been round before being struck. If it was a clipped coin, no reeding would be showing so therefore the damage came after the coin was struck. It has just taken a heavy hit displacing the metal. Corrected my stupid mistake. Must have had a Seniors moment this morning. (Been having a lot of those lately  ) Edited by JimmyD
04/13/2021 4:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It is damage BECAUSE it's reeded. If it were a clipped planchet, there would be no reeding on that area.
I'm not sure how it occurred, perhaps by using a blowtorch or heating up the coin, but metal was shifted over the obverse.
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Valued Member
United States
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Not to argue, but if its folded over like that the reeds would still be there? If pushed in the reeds still look decent? Just a rookie I guess but how can there be post damage, cut off, pushed in but still have reeds? Wouldn't they be absent completely or totally messed up if damaged coin?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know how it was damaged or how it got to that state, but damage is damage. PMD and nothing more. I'd move onto a different coin if I were you. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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"Not to argue, but if its folded over like that the reeds would still be there? If pushed in the reeds still look decent? Just a rookie I guess but how can there be post damage, cut off, pushed in but still have reeds? Wouldn't they be absent completely or totally messed up if damaged coin?"
It doesn't really matter how it happened, unless you were there you might not never know, what is important is to know that it is impossible for that to happen during the striking of the coin. There are only a certain number of things that can cause an error and that is not one of them.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree with comments above--a damaged quarter. The coin didn't leave the striking chamber in that condition.
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Moderator
 United States
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No clip. no Cud it is PMD. John1  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, just damage.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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The reeding is showing because it went through the upsetting mill which puts the reeding on the planchet Quarter blank after upsetting mill - no reeds Doesn't the collar die add the reeds?   |
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Looks like someone smashed the edge in with a hammer, used to do that every now and again when I was younger
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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On a Cud, because it is in the collar, the coin would still be round, not distorted in shape. It will have the reeds because of being in collar. An on the side opposite the Cud, there will be a weakness of the design.    You might wonder why the Cud is higher than the rim? That is because on the die, an edge has broken off the die, leaving a void to allow the metal to flow into that area.  Thus because of the missing part on the die, the opposite side will not have a design, but a blank area. (As much of the metal that is left on the planchet. CoopHome : Why is the design missing on the opposite side of a Cud? |
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