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Grade For This 1878 CC Morgan

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 Posted 04/28/2021  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Much better pics needed.
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 Posted 04/28/2021  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
This is an expensive coin in Mint State and can get close to $300 in AU. In MS65 you're at $1500. No way I'd pay more than $300 from those images.

Here's an example of an AU58 that brought $300 last winter. https://coins.ha.com/itm/morgan-dol...ption-071515
It looks every bit as good as the OP's images.
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 Posted 04/28/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
It has the surface presentation of a near PL coin, very frosty devices. But I'm seeing absolutely zero luster on it, something seems off. Are these scans?
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 Posted 04/29/2021  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
The previous pix were provided by the seller. Here are two more of the same coin by the same seller. As shown, it is ms61. I had thought it was ms63 or 64 and was interested in opinions before making a commitment to buy given the asking price.
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 Posted 04/29/2021  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
please wait at least 24 hrs to post grade. thanks

the 78(CC) are typically sharp and bold. this one falls short on strike with the flatness of the hair around the ear and breast. as stated there is missing luster (based on photos) on both sides. multiple little marks particularly on the obverse and one long one from LIBERTY to the ear. I would put eye appeal at AVG-. my grade was MS62. I didnt think there was enough scratches etc on both sides to warrant a 61.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I'd be around MS-62 for this one. A nice coin but the luster is somewhat dull and impaired.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
PCGS lists the coin at $385 for a MS61. I would not pay over that amount, and my first offer would start below the $385 amount. The seller's best offer asking price is way too high in the MS63 range. The general rule with buying coins in a TPG holder is negotiate price from the grade on the holder.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
No sense trying to second-guess PCGS for one point. It stands as a 61.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
The coin is somewhat proof like, but as said earlier it looks "dead": almost no luster.
Perhaps spend your money on a nice AU58 example? I have become somewhat of a fan of that grade level.
But if you want to spend the $$$, go at least for a real MS63 PL.
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Thanks guys for your responses. Some very interesting. I had made the seller an offer above the PCGS valuation and he would not even negotiate. In any case, saved myself some money. Got me thinking about the AU categories as a couple of you mentioned.
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I had made the seller an offer above the PCGS valuation and he would not even negotiate.


This seller is asking almost $500 (MS64 money) for a coin that is properly graded as a MS61 worth $350 imo. You did well by not buying this coin. No way it's worth over PCGS' Price Guide value of $385.
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 Posted 05/01/2021  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Go to ebay. Check the asking price for all slabbed 1878 CC Morgans.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
PCGS price guide tends to be retail, too, and is often a bit high relative to what a good price shopper can get.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list

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Got me thinking about the AU categories as a couple of you mentioned.


Here is a seller I have bought from in the past. They have some nice looking 1878 CC Morgan dollars in AU58 condition for a fair price: https://northernnevadacoin.com/shop...grade_end=58

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 Posted 05/09/2021  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list
Thanks for the link NumisEd. Looks good.
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