Newfoundland 1898 50 Cents

because the small W version has a much smaller W

DBM
Would you please be so kind and explain as to WHY the rev side is needed to determine something which can ONLY be seen on the OBverse side? I did not ask for grading this coin. No need for that.

Deductible
your answer is rather vague and does not explain much.
Silver101
As I said, it is 1898 and nothing else.
that year had the following markers referring to the W
small W
large W
large W over small W

to determine obv 1 or obv two, the following markers are defining this:
"do the top 4 laurel leaves enter the band at any point or not?

I have consulted with Barry Borsellini's CD and am still not much wiser. (with permission 2015)
here are Barries two and my images.

Yes there was a need, you have this posted in the Grading Section so we have to assume you are looking for a grade along with your question so both sides are required.

Seeing that you were looking for a variety, you could have posted it in the "Canadian Variety and Error Coins" Forum

Charlton's description of the obverses of many Victorian coins is often confusing and inadequate.
Some markers cannot be mentioned by Charlton's for copyright reasons, for others they just rehash the same old hooey.

@Silver101 disregard the laurel leaves and use the upper lip and eye line if that works for you, those markers are valid and easy to distinguish. Also note that OBV1 has a slightly more pronounced double chin. There are other markers as well.

Someone does research and publishes a catalog of varieties with markers.
You can't just put that in your own competing catalog without acknowledgement.
So I was told.

Re: Copyright
to copy someone's description as written by that person is possibly an infringement... possibly.
However one can use their own description without it being an infringement.
Charlton has nothing more than copyright protection from copying what they printed and re-using it for another publication.
Charlton has absolutely NO right over the way you describe a coin, even if you use the same or similar description. However, you can not use their images without permission, unless it says somewhere in the book that permission "to copy" and use for educational purposes is granted.

Okie,
I very much, and most of the time, I respect your opinion, as your knowledge is hard to contradict.
You do know a ton, actually, much more than a ton about coins. I wish I would only know 10% of what you know. You are seriously an expert at it.
Now to copyright and Charlton.
Most of these terms have become "public domain" in the meantime, meaning everyone can use these terms. And everyone does use them. Just do not copy directly from the book.
I have not checked the CR details at this time, but everybody can do that without a lawyer being needed.
If Charlton would have wanted to keep their CR protection, if they ever had any for these terms'', which I much doubt, they would have been obliged to inform everyone who uses their terms of the rights they have toward the protection of the terms describing the object or part of it. They did not. They might have told you guys that the images and the books as such and as a whole were CR protected. Which they automatically are without even having to be registered. But, I have yet to see any objection to the use of these terms describing certain coins. These terms, describing differences in coins are common property and anybody can use them without restrictions. Jut not copying from the books.
However, you can not copy pictures and their descriptions directly and use these for other purposes. But there are also exceptions. And "permission to use" is usually given by the creator. (credit given etc etc)
Years ago I had a chat with Bill Cross when I asked him for permission to copy certain pages of 1858 and 1859's, for use in our coin club. Whole pages which you guys designed and wrote. You guys, the writers, transferred YOUR copyright to YOUR work, to Charlton or Bill Cross.
His words: I appreciate you making the effort to ask, but it is open domain. I then explained to him again that I wanted to copy complete pages of the book. he said, his words: "Thank you for taking the time contacting me to ask. that makes me feel good" from his place in Florida I believe. he then went on to tell me, that ONLY the contents as originally written in the books are CR. Not individual items. he also told me that the photographs are copyright with the respective person who took the images,unless these were purchased from the creator, probably Scott Cornwell, Brians son, or whoever took the original pictures.
Personally, I was involved, and still am with a CR issue (which at this time has not been really settled,) The issue is about my coins and pictures I took and I then sold the coins.....but not the pictures of the coins. It is a mistake to assume the rights to the pictures automatically transferred with the object. I would have had no issue with it, had the buyer asked, but the new coin owner represented the pictures as his own.
ask any lawyer.
Charlton has an automatic CR on their publications, just like any publisher has. But not necessarily on the images contained in it or the text in it. Unless they have an agreement with the Photographer and or writer of the publication.
It would be a seriously messy mess to challenge that. you could make lawyers very rich.
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DBM, CR only applies if someone infringes on the rights by copying the originator's or creator's items, not by describing items in their own way using similar, known and existing terminology. Especially of something which is" open and unchallenged domain". Copyright to something can only apply to something created by someone. Coin descriptions as such are NOT copyright protected. It does not matter whatever terms you use to describe coins.
For example, the RCM has copyright protection on all pictures they create of coins and use But they can not have a copyright on the actual coins themselves. They get protection automatically by the Law. Anyone can photograph the coins and make descriptions for them. But the RCM has design protection on the coins they mint in a more powerful form: anyone who copies the coins is a forger.