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1907 5c Liberty Head Nickel #3

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 Posted 08/19/2021  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Stars are not sharply defined.
MS-62.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
I'm going with AU-55 . Circulation wear and MDS .
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 Posted 08/19/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
Weak strike on the hair but from the photos I can't see any slide marks or rub on Liberty's cheek. I would go with a lower grade MS coin, perhaps MS-61 or 62.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iontyre to your friends list
Hard to tell when not in hand, but it could be MS. These coins did not strike up well, particularly on the hair above the forehead and the left hand corn area at the bottom of the wreath on the reverse, plus the stars are often flat. This example shows all three weaknesses, but with the luster may still in fact be an MS coin, possibly even MS-63.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i think the coin can be MS also. I'm going with MS62 possible details. the lighting in the photos could very well be hiding an issue on reverse K5 area under cents
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 Posted 08/19/2021  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Ms62 weak strike.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I'm obviously a goober at grading these. I'll bump to AU-53.
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 Posted 08/19/2021  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
The obverse pic makes it tough to determine luster. The reverse pic shows strong luster. It definitely has a pancake strike.

I only see three contact marks on the obverse: a gouge NE of the upper lip, a gouge below the hair at the back of the neck, and a light scratch SW of the "RT" of LIBERTY. The reverse has what looks like a knock in the denticles at 7:00 and a minor contact mark east of the "V" and a smaller contact on the left leg of the "V." There could be other contact marks that can't be seen in these photos, but the ones that can be seen on both the obverse and reverse are minor.

What I can't decide is whether there is any interruption in the luster on the devices. This seems like it is either a slider or a mid-UNC. Put me down for either AU-58 or MS-64 technical grade unless the in-hand pics show more contact marks or surface damage that is not apparent in these pics. I could see -0.5 eye appeal adjustment for the weak strike.

Good grief, at $40, this one's a gimme. That's the price for a generic low AU. Where's the downside?
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 Posted 08/19/2021  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
So, the lack of hair detail below Liberty could still be consistent with a 64 grade? That just runs contrary to my understanding of a mint state coin in this series.
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08/19/2021 7:47 pm
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So, the lack of hair detail below Liberty could still be consistent with a 64 grade? That just runs contrary to my understanding of a mint state coin in this series.

Yes I'm right there with you on that theory .
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 Posted 08/19/2021  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list

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So, the lack of hair detail below Liberty could still be consistent with a 64 grade? That just runs contrary to my understanding of a mint state coin in this series.


That's the question here. If - and it's a very big if - that weakness is entirely due to a weak strike, yes. From this obverse pic, it simply isn't possible to see broken luster or other direct evidence of circulation. It also can't be ruled out.

The reverse photo suggests - but doesn't confirm - unbroken luster. If the luster really is intact on the reverse, it has to be UNC.

Would I pay 64 money for a pancake that technically hits 64? Nope. But it could be a technical 64, depending on those big ifs.

Personally, I think it will prove to be a 58. Or a really crazy 55 with far too much luster. But the pics we have right now can't eliminate a mid-UNC.
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 Posted 08/23/2021  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
This came in dripping with luster. Thoughts? Thanks!

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 Posted 08/24/2021  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Have to say, I'm not seeing broken luster on the first set of new photos. (The second set is too blurry to see details.)

Wowzers, that strike is weak.

I'm not really sure what to think here. I would think "whizzed coin" but I don't see any evidence of that. I'm honestly not sure here.
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08/24/2021 8:33 pm
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 Posted 08/24/2021  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Terribly weak strike whatever the grade. Not something I'd want to own for resale.
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 Posted 08/31/2021  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list
Has sort of a whizzed look to me too, but I don't see any clear indication of such a thing having occurred. If it's actual luster then I think this coin has more the appearance of a low pressure strike then that of a VLDS coin.
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