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Moderator
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I'm going to change it up and say that it was done manually with an engraver or Dremel tool with a small (tiny) bit. Notice how the Monticello building seems to be 'outlined' and the letters of the device at the pot are not affected.
I think that if acid was allowed to 'rain' down on a coin that was tipped up a bit, the acid trails would not have starts and stops that we see at the building edges. but instead would probably pool up for a second then drip over the top making a continuous line
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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... and say that it was done manually with an engraver or Dremel tool with a small (tiny) bit. ... Except a tool wouldn't be able to stop and start on each side of a device (TRUST, EPU, etc.) and leave the device unaffected. The rev seems to be affected with deeper grooves than the obv which seems to indicate the rev was subjected to the "torture" longer than the obv. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Edited by Petespockets55
08/29/2021 12:47 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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The only thing I can add is that it is not a Struck Through anything and it is PMD. Exactly how it happened I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards acid. Anxious to see if Mike can give an opinion. |
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Quote: The only thing I can add is that it is not a Struck Through anything and it is PMD. Exactly how it happened I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards acid. Anxious to see if Mike can give an opinion. Please explain how it can not possibly be a strike through, and is without a doubt PMD. |
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United States
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I'd suggested acid, but now I like Yokozuna's torch idea better because I suspect acid would need to be excessively strong to create those rivulets within a short duration pour. A long duration pour would tend to smooth the rivulets. The areas without rivulets would be where tongs held the coin and conducted blowtorch heat away.
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New Member
United States
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My daughter did something similar to this om a penny. By painting it with I'm not sure what kind of paint, it leftpaint brush strokes earten into the surface of the coin. So....
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The dies are not flat. They fields are the outside of the die. So you couldn't have straight lines like the coin has on the die. The coin was just altered. If it were a die issue, there would be up to one million of these out there. There is not. The coin was altered.
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09/01/2021 12:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I put the picture into a word doc and enlarged it and noticed what looks like black carbon residue in a few spots, such as under Monticello and in the first few letters of Monticello, UNITED, the date and GOD WE. It appears to be in nooks and crannies hard to clean but not on any of the fields or large device areas.
Also, acid would likely have decreased the weight, so if the coin weighs the right amount but has rippling and black spotting I'm in the heated then cleaned camp.
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Valued Member
United States
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Whatever it is, someone went to some trouble to make an interesting effect! OP, wish it was legit. Hope you find a real winner next time.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It may have been heated and rubbed with a stiff wire brush. It is not a mint error.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Also, acid would likely have decreased the weight, I was thinking the same thing. If the weight is normal a torch seems the most logical since acid would remove some of the metal. Can the OP please give us the weight of the coin? Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Clearly altered after leaving the mint.  to the CCF! Edited by Coinfrog
09/02/2021 8:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As others have said, this coin was altered/damaged outside the Mint. The exact method used is a matter of speculation, but this appearance cannot emerge from a coining press.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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United States
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I suppose Heat could have done this, but it would be difficult to clean afterwards to Get looking like this again. Especially without any obvious marks from a wire brush or sandpaper or anything. It appears mostly unaltered after the initial trauama that created the pattern.
Acid would definitely not cause this effect, especially in a nickel.. My guess is that it was clamped very tight in a vise with something on each side to create an imprint that looks like a fingerprint. Likely heat was an element here to make the metal more malleable, and nickels can take a very high amount of heat. But then again I don't know much about coins tbh, just metalwork and chemistry. Still, I dont see any way this could have been a mint error.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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That was my conclusion. Heat and a wire brush.
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