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 Posted 01/13/2009  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list
How far away are you moving from your current location?

If it was me I would just drive and not think twice about it.


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Since I was moved by my company, they took care of everything: packing, loading, transporting, and unloading. Everything was insured but I didn't want to take a chance with my valuables, including my unorganized coin hoard


I worked for a moving company for 5 long years. Some of the insurance they offer is a joke. Take a tv that weighs 100 pounds and is valued at $1,000. When I was there basic coverage was $0.60 per lb. So for that $1,000 tv you would only get $60.

And if a moving company was moving you, if they don't pack the box it wouldn't be fully covered. All boxes on the inventory that are packed by the customer are listed as CP. The compnay I worked for required us to record every serial number on electronics when we were packing them.
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01/13/2009 6:50 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2009  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Well, I can quell one worry if you drive them yourself (valid in USA). If the cop wants to search your car, tell him no. If you do not consent to his searching your car, and you don't have something like a gun or drugs in plain sight, he can not legally search your vehicle. Of course, my worry would be a traffic accident. Is short term insurance available for something like this perhaps?


Sure sounds like someone that has ever been stopped by the cops. Around here anyway, yes you can say no to a search. Of course they then take you in for questioning on just about anything. Now your auto is towed and by either the police towing or a hired service. The questioning would be if you started the Chicago fire, killed Nero, were involved with that Lincoln thing in the theater, etc.
One thing as already mentioned is if you drive them to your new area you take the chance of something going wrong with your car. It then gets towed by who knows who. You stop in a rest area and never see your car again. You get out for something to eat and get robbed.
The solution given for any of that was the best so far. Travel with someone in another vehical if possible.
To carry a firearm in your auto you first must make sure that all states you travel through would allow that. If in Illinois and your stopped and no Illinois FOID card, to jail you would go, then fined and the fire arm lost. So where would those coins be during all that?
To have a Brinks type truck stop in front of your new house would surely be of interest to your new neighbors. Hopefully none are like mine. Same with where you work.
In the greatest amount of instances of people being moved by a mover, your would find that if a really reputable mover nothing is lost. Occationally something may get scratched or broke, but seldom lost. If it were me I'd just put all the coins in something like a large box, muffle with bubble wrap, then into anothe box, then tape the heck out of it and lable it Dishes. Handle with care. Of course lable all the boxes so nothing appears suspicious.
If something happened to the truck, they get on the phone and call for a back up. They just want your stuff off the truck so they don't waste time inspecting stuff. Many stories of people just tieing up a cabinet and shipping everything as is. Money, check books, jewelery, etc. and no problems.
Of course if your really worried I'll just come pick it all up for you and you will never have to worry about that again.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list
What ever you do you will be verry nervouse about it I recently did something like this and it ruined the trip because my only focus were the coins youll under stand what I mean once you hit the road with them !
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 Posted 01/14/2009  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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Potentially problematic, since he's moving between two states. That particular fact cost me 9 guns, a misdemeanor conviction (plea-bargained from a felony) and three years' probation a while back.


Sorry to hear that!

Definately, all CC permit holders must be acutely aware of this! I keep praying that they fix this whole situation. If you have a permit in one state, it really should be valid in ALL states.
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 Posted 01/14/2009  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
It's been pretty much fixed - note the large amount of reciprocity in my link above. Unfortunately, I'm originally from Vermont (where "gun control" means always keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction) and was moving to New York (not so much).

You shoulda seen the look on the cop's face when he asked me if I had any guns or anything in the car, and I said, "Yeah, I got a whole bunch in the back."
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 Posted 01/14/2009  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list

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Around here anyway, yes you can say no to a search. Of course they then take you in for questioning on just about anything. Now your auto is towed and by either the police towing or a hired service. The questioning would be if you started the Chicago fire, killed Nero, were involved with that Lincoln thing in the theater, etc.
One thing as already mentioned is if you drive them to your new area you take the chance of something going wrong with your car. It then gets towed by who knows who. You stop in a rest area and never see your car again. You get out for something to eat and get robbed.


Carl, with the way you talk about your area, I wouldn't drive through with more than a dollar in my pocket unless I was in an M-1 Abrams tank! Even that would only be good for a hundred dollars or so... with fifty grand, I'd want air support too! Fortunately not every part of the country is like that.

Interesting story on moving valuable coins-
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/n.../Numismatics
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01/14/2009 10:25 am
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 Posted 01/14/2009  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list
I think that you make the mistake of thinking that your situation is unique. Try calling UPS or FedEx to see what they suggest. I know for a fact that people ship valuables worth more than this (see Bernie Madoff).

You also may want to try asking some of the high-end movers what they suggest. Around here, Gentle Giant Moving Company is known to as a company that the wealthy like to use. I'm sure that there are people who have art and furniture that make your coin collection look like small potatoes.

Or you could just use the guys that Heritage uses:
http://coins.ha.com/common/shipping...ndations.php

Incidentally, I think driving it is the worst option. At least other means of transport can be insured. What happens if you are in an accident and get rushed to the hospital?
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01/14/2009 4:40 pm
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 Posted 01/14/2009  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list
or the plane crashes, or the Brinks Truck is hijacked, or they arrest you for gun trafficing and confiscate your coins, or they mistake your FED Ex for one of Bernie's and take your coins to recover value for investors, or your brother traveling with you is seduced by a beautiful thief and gives her the keys to your trunk, or you find out your new job is a ruse and a scum bag co-worker takes your coins the first day you try and go to work, or (deep breath here) lets not leave out natural disasters - as you drive through Wyoming to your new job, Yellowstone erupts, you and your traveling collection are blown out of the car. You survive, but the ash from the eruption is loaded with PVC and your collection is immediately tarnished. It is miles to a store that carries acetone and well my lord it is so hopeless......
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01/14/2009 5:09 pm
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 Posted 01/14/2009  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
I knew that was inevitable.
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 Posted 01/14/2009  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list
Since I live just north of you i'll drive them for you, where do you want me to deliver them to?
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 Posted 01/15/2009  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
You could hide your coins in your radiator, no one would look there and they would get steam cleaned as well. Anti-freeze is ok for coins right?
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 Posted 01/15/2009  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list

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lets not leave out natural disasters - as you drive through Wyoming to your new job, Yellowstone erupts, you and your traveling collection are blown out of the car. You survive, but the ash from the eruption is loaded with PVC and your collection is immediately tarnished. It is miles to a store that carries acetone and well my lord it is so hopeless......


That happened to me last year

Fortunately, the stain on one of my Peace dollars formed in the image of the Virgin Mary, so I was able to sell it on ebay and use the money to replace most of the damaged ones.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrh757 to your friends list
Also quite true. An 1894-S Barber dime traded hands a couple years ago, the dealer who brokered the sale flew from California to New York with the coin in his pocket. That coin sold for about $2 million, I wonder if he had sweaty palms walking around with that thing---------But it's only a dime worth 10 cents to every one else-Right? Sometimes the hardest this to find are in plane sight!!
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 Posted 01/27/2009  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Carl, with the way you talk about your area, I wouldn't drive through with more than a dollar in my pocket unless I was in an M-1 Abrams tank! Even that would only be good for a hundred dollars or so... with fifty grand, I'd want air support too! Fortunately not every part of the country is like that.

Interesting story on moving valuable coins-
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/n.../Numismatics
Yes this area is getting nuts about coins, guns, etc. Just west of Chicago they now closed 3 indoor gun ranges, Closed an outdoor one, closed the shotgun range at the lake front. No stores in Chicago can sell any guns. If you live in Chicago you must have a state card (FOID) and all guns must be registered. If passing through the area with out these, JAIL and FINE. Most suburbs do not even sell pellet or bb guns.
And yes, it' really true the police do stop people for questioning, possible drinking and anything else they can think of. Our murder rate is up again, 50,000 vehicals/year stolen, no one even knows how many homes are robbed.
Being a coin collector and going to coin shows makes one really cautious.
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 Posted 01/27/2009  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list
I moved probably $12K in coins over 3000 mi. a couple years ago....had them stashed in my motor home and didn't give it a second thought...I DID sleep in it when we were going to stay in a motel in So.Cal though.Too many homeless people around.I had a loaded 357 Mag. next to my bed that nite.My wife and dogs got the motel bed..
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