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2021-D Lincoln Shield Cent Possible DDR?

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 Posted 10/23/2021  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Decaf94drew,
What are you using to take coin photos with? You will need to put a filter over your light source.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  04:20 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
It's a mini led microscope I can attach to my phone for the super close up. I'll have to take new pics with the light diffused in the am after work
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 Posted 10/23/2021  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
Alrighty bad news is my set up isn't giving the greatest photos yet I was able to get better ones with less glare. I would also like to note however I did run by my local coin shop and have them take a look at it I showed them tanman2001 photos (which were very helpful thank you!) And the dealers agreed it has the same type of doubling as the one in Cecilia's. However I'm thinking this may be a different die than the one hers was struck by so I'm going to send this off to wexler to solve this once and for all. Really open to opinions
However since I am still very new and learning!!!
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The Die Crack on the shield diverges from the top of the shield over the U instead of P like in tanman2001's photos
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 Posted 10/23/2021  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Too close doesn't help. Sure it looks larger, but it is really not really helpful. If it is a minor issue less interest is shown in them.

Case in point:
Minnesota DDR's. There are listings for 176 of them. Anyone collecting these? Probably not. But they are listed. Hard to sell for this item.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
Not trying to make big money just more or less contribute a new find to the community finished searching that roll found 10 total. I feel like if I could take better photos it would help a lot. They are extremely noticeable. Who knows maybe me and the dealer don't know what is what. However I'd risk 5 bucks for an attribution or a good lesson at least I'll know for sure. I'm just trying to soak up as much info and collect as much as I can
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 Posted 10/23/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
And thank you coop for saying too close that fixed the problem!!!
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 Posted 10/23/2021  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
So does the new picture help?
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 Posted 10/24/2021  02:11 am  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list
Doubling is remarkably similar to the one I looked at. Maybe an earlier die state before the die cracks formed?


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The Die Crack on the shield diverges from the top of the shield over the U instead of P


That photo is way too blurry to see any crack there. But seeing a clear photo of the crack at that magnification would let us make a good comparison and give a definite answer.
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 Posted 10/24/2021  02:33 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
Now that I figured a little better setup for Close ups I'll get better images of the die crack along the shield posted up after work
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 Posted 10/24/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
Here are the photos!
Shield die crack ends above the U
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No die crack on E
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No die crack on skull
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Less blurry images
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This last one I put up has me stumped was this my loupe and phone doing some weird shenanigans while I was focusing on the doubling? Or is that what It actually looks like if it were to be properly photo'd Genuinely asking for help..
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 Posted 10/24/2021  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
I would also like to note if I hadn't said before the area in question is strong enough that the three doubled spots can actually be seen with the naked eye.. No way in great detail without a loupe however they do stand out enough that tilting the coin in light will show the doubling well enough to would make you grab your loupe to double check you are seeing it correctly.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list
You're right, die crack is definitely not a match. It's a different die.


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This last one I put up has me stumped was this my loupe and phone doing some weird shenanigans while I was focusing on the doubling? Or is that what It actually looks like if it were to be properly photo'd Genuinely asking for help.


I think what you're getting there is the reflection of the stripes on the very edge of the banner.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  01:17 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
I was able to personally find an example of the one listed on variety vista to compare and it would seem the one you imaged and the one listen on their site have about the same spread.The coin this post is on is actually more visible doubled wise than both examples shown so far. I have 1 more different DDR with even stronger doubling(still not major but not small by any means either) I'm waiting for a response back on it for attribution right now. Just thought I'd share
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 Posted 10/26/2021  01:50 am  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list
And the plot thickens just found the DDR Tanman2001 imaged and there are bigger DDRs out there this year... I might post images of the varieties I have after I decide what to do with them if anyone even cares
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 Posted 10/26/2021  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USCoinHunter to your friends list
angle of the camera, light reflection obscures it giving you an impression of there is doubling!?. If there is anything, tiny die crack, No doubling!.
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