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An 1864 Two Cent Piece With A Patent Medicine Counterstamp .

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 Posted 10/26/2021  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.

'Oli of Ice' suggests camphor oil skin rub, to my way of thinking. Vicks Vapor Rub would be a more modern equivalent.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list

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If you can find a historical documented linking to the counter stamp, the coin would have a lot more numismatic interest.


I thoroughly agree and endeavor to do that with every article I write or counterstamp post that I make. If you check out my other postings, you can find many ads and pics of products. Oftentimes, I've acquired a silversmith's spoon with a matching hallmark, a knife with a matching maker's mark or a daguerreotype with a matching stamp on the casing. I can't afford to buy all the early guns, so I settle for pics of those.

I do have one of Goodwin's news ads that cites a pair of his other products. The OIL: OF ICE is not mentioned therein. I post that ad with examples of his other counterstamps.
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 Posted 10/26/2021  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list
Here are OIL OF ICE counterstamps on a Flying Eagle cent, Indian Head cent and a Shield nickel.

An-1864-Two-Cent-Piece-With-A-Patent-Medicine-Counterstamp-.

BTW, my avatar ["USE GOODWIN'S GRAND GREASE JUICE FOR THE HAIR. G.G.G."] is also related to the above Exeter counterstamp.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I like it, and a deuce of course, I haven't seen that counterstamp before, really neat.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list

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I like it, and a deuce of course, I haven't seen that counterstamp before, really neat.


@ Westcoin .... I thought you might chime in on this "deuce" as you lovingly call it. The uncommonly seen host bearing this c/s was my incentive to acquire it.

@ CaptainRich .... Great examples, you've got. I've long admired your avatar!
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 Posted 10/28/2021  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I found a bit of info here, which you're probably already aware of.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...ce-453353596

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It's likely his OIL OF ICE was a camphor in glycerin concoction. This information came from a 1928 Saturday Evening Post that mentioned "old Charles Goodwin invented Goodwins Grand Grease Juice and Goodwins oil of ice..."
I tried looking for the 1928 mention but their archives require a subscription.

This would appear to be his headstone in the Exeter NH cemetery. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial...enry-goodwin
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 Posted 10/28/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list

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This would appear to be his headstone in the Exeter NH cemetery.


It's strange that his grave stone doesn't show his date of birth, but does mention that he lived for 67 years, 6 months and 2 days. From that information, I guess a mathematician could figure out his date of birth by counting backward -- including leap year days of course.
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 Posted 10/28/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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It's strange that his grave stone doesn't show his date of birth, but does mention that he lived for 67 years, 6 months and 2 days. From that information, I guess a mathematician could figure out his date of birth by counting backward
Maybe they wanted visitors to exercise their grey matter?
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 Posted 10/28/2021  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
@ kbbpll .... Thanks for the headstone. I've often included pics of them in my c/s articles. I hadn't yet gotten around to looking for Goodwin's. His G.G.G. & G.G.G.G. which I have on a variety of host coins will be the subject of my next post. Stay tuned!

BTW, kbbpll, you seem to have the making of a diehard c/s collector, like CaptainRich & me.


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Maybe they wanted visitors to exercise their grey matter?


Hey jbuck .... Do you stay a-WAKE at night, thinking uo comments like this?
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Hey jbuck .... Do you stay a-WAKE at night, thinking uo comments like this?


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 Posted 10/28/2021  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I have no idea if that's the same Charles H. Goodwin as the counterstamp but Exeter and the timing lines up. It actually says 67 years, 5 months and 2 days. The math is wrong then for that birth date May 15 1829. Adding 67 years gives you May 15, 1896, but from there adding 5 months would be October 15, then plus 2 days October 17, 1896. I can't figure a way to get Nov 2 1896 out of that. Does it matter? No. I just like digging into this stuff when I'm bored, which is a lot.


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 Posted 10/29/2021  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
This is such a great thread.
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