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Silver Eagle Picture Of Date. Doubled Die?

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 Posted 11/20/2021  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny4yourthough to your friends list
I was referring to the 8 people that had already looked at it. I wouldnt complain about nobody leaving a reply if nobody looked at it. Me personally if I take the time to look at a post and a picture I would give an honest reply. Not a big deal I'm over it I am heavy I to pennies but this past year have purchased alot of silver eagles. Pennies took me two years before I even started to know anything. 5 years later and I started silver eagles working on a perfect ms70 collection and never really thought about looking for double die on already graded PCGS coins ive purchashed assuming if its graded and not labled as a double than why look for it. I was posting a couple satin/burnished westpoint minted NGC ms 70s and noticed so.ething that made me start looking so I go to my 1998 PCGS coin for a baseline of what it should look like and that eagle has doubling on liberty and the date. This does not look like Machine Doubling at all. I just wanted some other input but I'm sorry several people lookimg at the picture and left no reply was like why bother. Its not like I am going to send PCGS an email asking if its possible they made a mistake. Still not one honest reply I didnt call anybody snobs but the 8 people that looked and left no reply. To me thats absurd.
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 Posted 11/20/2021  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@Penny4yourthough: It's important to understand that CCF is a forum not an instant messaging exchange - members here interact over time. There are many very knowledgeable volunteer collectors and dealers here who are regular visitors/contributors but who don't visit everyday. Time is needed for these folks to see a post and reply to it, if they can.

If you look around CCF, you will see many threads with high "Read" counts and low/very low "Replies" counts. This is not uncommon, it's the nature of this type of forum.

You've asked a question that requires experience beyond that of a beginner or casual collector. After reading posts with these types of questions, many folks often will not respond as they do not have solid knowledge of an answer. Do you really want the opinion of someone who doesn't actually know about the subject matter? Personally, I don't reply to a thread unless I am confident in the accuracy of my reply - I don't want to contribute to the internet spread of misinformation.

All that said, from the image provided, your coin appears to exhibit Mechanical Doubling (also called Machine Doubling) vs. a doubling on the die. Such doubling is a production issue vs. a die issue. (Note 1: Here's a link to a good discussion of this doubling: Double Dies vs. Machine Doubling.) (Note 2: Additional images/views of the area might change my opinion.)

This type of doubling does not generally carry a premium in the market and is not attributed by reputable grading services. Others with more expertise in this area might offer other thoughts.

Good luck!




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 Posted 11/20/2021  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list
Also doesn't help that at 11:01 you only posted a picture of a coin with a description "Silver Eagle Picture Of Date. Doubled Die?". I don't know what you were expecting with no further questions or description.
You only gave us more description 38 min after the post was made and then gave members 4 min to respond. 4 min will not get any good responses.

Your topic is more of" Double die " than a question.
Now if you wrote, Is this a double die?, then I can give a valid opinion. Regardless its a neat doubling.

Another point is that you don't mention the grading company. PCGS has its own pricing for Error coins. So unless you list it as error and pay the fee then it wont be graded as such. You pay the grading company to grade and authenticate your coins, not look thru and see if its an error coin.

I doubt many people will comment on this topic due to the hostility from OP. You can view these topics without being a member as well. People like to browse what is interesting to them and if they want to leave a comment then they can, regardless if its the expertise or not.

If I left a comment every time I looked at a topic then a simple few min browse would be like an hour ordeal and if I don't have anything to contribute what do you want me to say?

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 Posted 11/20/2021  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well, I guess that commems and coincollector123 covered the issues quite well.

I have nothing more to say about this coin at all, but instead felt 'required' to leave a comment because I looked at this topic.
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 Posted 11/20/2021  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pilotaggie to your friends list
I like to look at threads but my knowledge is pretty limited. Guess I should have replied. I believe this to be a super double die first edition signed coin. There were only 9 of these released into the wild!!! Congrats!
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 Posted 11/20/2021  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

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I believe this to be a super double die first edition signed coin. There were only 9 of these released into the wild!!! Congrats!

What,never heard of that. Please explain.
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 Posted 11/20/2021  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list
This thread went way off the rails. Looks like Machine Doubling. When you post please include full cropped pictures of both sides. We can get a better idea of what's going on.
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 Posted 11/20/2021  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Forget about OP doubled die question which is not anyway from the single photo.

I'm with John1.

Where on earth is the super doubled die signed first edition info?
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 Posted 11/20/2021  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
WOW, this train just took a turn onto a bumpy dirt road, I'm curious as to where it is going to end up.

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 Posted 11/20/2021  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
To the Forum,

Your coin looks like a Decent Picture of MD. The Expertise, Knowledge and Kindness of others, HERE is Outstanding !!!! Posts are put up All Day Long, Members will Happily Help.... Patience goes a Long Way. We are in need of the best pictures and descriptions, We can get, to Help You, Enjoy the Family. ......................... PS, Nice photo Too.
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 Posted 11/20/2021  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Visit counts include people who aren't members, and also people who might not know the answer to your question. 8 people is nothing. I will typically see 1 reply every 50 views.

Multiple views from the same person stack on the view count as well, so if you look at your post twice, your view count goes up by two. It's possible you really had 3 or 4 unique people see your post.
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 Posted 11/21/2021  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
The flat shelf like appearance of the doubling makes it seem more like common Machine Doubling. Wexler's only lists two different dates of ASE's that are considered DDO and this isn't one of them.
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 Posted 11/22/2021  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
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