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1830 Capped Bust Half. I Think NGC Got This One Right .

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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Sure, do you see the parallel horizontal lines in the rectangle at left?

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Btw, I think these photos you take show the coin beautifully and in great detail.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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do you see the parallel horizontal lines in the rectangle at left?


looks like a finger or palm print
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
to me it looks like metal has moved
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/23/2021  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
Thanks guys -- I appreciate the scrutiny.

I've had this coin since I was a kid -- it was in a big jar of 19th century coins my grandfather kept. I've been gradually submitting them to NGC -- which unfortunately charges extra (and a lot) for digital pics.

I replaced the pics with slightly better ones. That scratch on the cheek is on the holder -- different light placement removes it from view. I see the parallel lines in the left field -- I thought they were prints.

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 Posted 11/23/2021  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Later die state obverse than reverse. The die state and soft strike make the obverse look weaker than it is. The issues on the obverse appear to me to be die clashing marks with the eagle's wings. VF-30 obverse, VF-35 reverse, net VF-30, straight grade.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Overall nice eye appeal. I'm in the VF30/35 bubble, leaning VF30, assuming the marks in the fields next to Stars 11-13 is not PMD.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I find this an attractive VF-35. This is an O-108 with a rarity of R-3. Not sure what is in the right obverse field, looks like scratches.

Any other neat coins found in your grandfather's jar?
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 Posted 11/23/2021  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
My grandfather gave me some wonderful coins, but poverty in early adulthood compelled me to sell the best ones. There was a beautiful 1800 dollar that fetched $7500 back in 1979. I still miss that coin. A number of nice small gold pieces as well. I managed to keep a few nice pieces. He loved bust quarters and halves, and I still have a few --- not all of them impaired like this one.
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 Posted 11/23/2021  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I am sure that your grandfather would have been happy to know that some of the things that he left behind helped get you through challenging times. That is the one of the best things that one can do for loved ones.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 11/24/2021  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
Yep, NGC thinks that's PMD in the right obv field, not die clashes or anything.


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 Posted 12/05/2021  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
Alas, not much interest on ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284540487885
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 Posted 12/05/2021  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Can't say much yet as it could triple in price during the last ten seconds.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list

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Can't say much yet as it could triple in price during the last ten seconds.


Usually for that to happen there would be a bunch of watchers. Pretty good chance I'm gonna get hosed. Wouldn't normally bother me but I've had this particular coin for a very long time.
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 Posted 12/05/2021  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
The buyer got a decent price for it, $80. After ebay fees and shipping, you didn't get a great price. But this coin is common and has serious damage. I was very close to bidding on it, but the damage turned me off at the very end.
Suffering from bust half fever.
Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955
Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
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