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Who Else Here Buys World Coins For The Silver?

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 Posted 12/15/2021  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Soon enough we'll be back to bartering--chickens, walnuts, lumps of coal; you get the idea. Remember, a road rash chicken is damage, not a hatching error.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arkie to your friends list
I've been doing that for more than a decade. Went to the local rinky-dink annual coin show, and was disgusted by the bullion premia. Started looking at foreign coins.

Went to one table with some foreign coins and asked if he had any Canadian--he laughed in my face. Found another table that sold me Canadian dollars sealed in plastic for below melt. Guess he was tired of them.

So I picked up some Dutch, some Canadian, a Chinese dollar before they went crazy in price, and a 1950s Swiss 5 franc that was marked as .75 ASW. Didn't know anything about foreign, so I went on line to see what I had. Found out I had been cheated on the 5 franc.

Started buying used Krauses online. Was in line at the LCS, and forced to kill time, I looked at the foreign junkbox. There was a 1950s Swiss 5 franc. I asked how much the coin dealer wanted for this junk box coin. Answer: 25 cents. I was fairly sure the coin had not been demonetized, and a Swiss franc was then 80 cents US, so I figured I had a $4 coin even if it wasn't silver. But, of course, it was.

FWIW, at a later (and different) coin show, I brought 280 (nonsilver) swiss franc coins to a foreign coin dealer. This was when the Swiss franc broke the Euro peg, and was marked at something like $1.20 US. He gave me 90 cents for each franc, and I bought a gold French 20 franc with the proceeds. These were coins I had paid 5-6/$1 to obtain, ranging from half francs to 5 francs, so I didn't have much money in them.

Now, a major part of my collection is foreign silver obtained either in the 5-6/$1 junkbox, or at a spottish price. If the LCS holds coins for me to review, I pick out the silver for them (often setting aside the silver I want to buy). If they throw it in the junkbox, I figure it's free game. And yes, I have found gold in the foreign coins I reviewed.

Was in the LCS recently, and a customer said -- hey, the world coin guy is here. So I guess I have a reputation now.
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 Posted 12/15/2021  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list
Ah, the junk box at the LCS seems to be extinct in Australia (at least in Queensland). Even low value coins are now listed individually on ebay at often ridiculous prices. I find the odd silver coin in bulk lots but have to go through about 50-100kg for 1 silver. I did recently find a silver 1960 France 5 Franc coin that I suspect only escaped detection because it is the same design and size and the 1970 onward 5 Francs that I often find in bulk noodles. I would be better off buying individual silver coins but it's the thrill of the hunt I guess.
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 Posted 12/30/2021  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
Gotta love a good junk box...
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 Posted 12/30/2021  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
The World silver I typically buy comes in the form of crown-sized coins, and never from dealer junk boxes - I'm definitely not a "stacker" of World silver! Since I don't purchase lots and lots of World silver coins, I tend to focus my purchases on mint state examples whose market prices are based on numismatic value vs. intrinsic value.

Here are a few from my collection:

1915 Peru Un Sol
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1933 Cuba Star Peso
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1910 Mexico Caballito Peso
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 Posted 12/31/2021  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
I like that caballito

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 Posted 12/31/2021  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@wind, you will see that I have cleaned up your post a bit to make it family-friendly. As a reminder, this is one of our rules:


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 Posted 01/02/2022  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
You just have to realise the dealer is usually the one with better knowledge both of the market and the prices of items. However unlike a dealer you don't have overheads so stack what you like there nothing wrong with proper silver :P

Depends on the junk lot, dealer almost never have unsearched bins and then the world coins are going for well above face so usually not much point to search junk lots these days. But I've purchase odd lots and depending on the market, I would say sometimes I can come out ahead.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
@winterfell glad you liked the video!!!
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 Posted 01/02/2022  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I used to go for World silver many decades ago, before the Hunt brothers decided to try to corner the silver market.
I copped out when the silver price rose too high, ending up with about 3 kilos of ASW.
I still have them all, and now, they have acquired considerable numismatic value as well.

To complement the silver coins, I also tried for World bronze and copper coins in EF or better, concentrating on pre 1900 issues. I still have all of those as well.

Most of them came from dealers' junk boxes in the $2 to $10 range from LCS's and coin shows. (1970's and 1980's prices)

To accumulate World coins with the above approach is not possible any more. About 700 coins make up this part of my overall collection, but the accumulation phase has long since been dormant.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
@sel69I
I definitely missed out. I've had guy telling me about how in the 60's they could grab Swiss shooting metals under melt.

The exchange rates were amazing and silver under melt was common, if it was foreign.

Yep, the foreign silver coin market has mpst assuredly tightened up.

However, during the last big run up of silver, world coins could ne had under melt on the regular as compared to US stuff.

Of course, melt then was $30+

So it is still somewhat cyclical, but the real steals are definitely further in between.
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 Posted 01/03/2022  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
At times sterling flatware sells for under melt. Unlike coins, I eat with it in style.

Never overlook gold melters. Sometimes you find a shabby Newfie.

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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 01/03/2022  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
@thq

I don't own any gold... too rich for my blood.

Definitely plan to do a GSR swap if the ratio ever dips below 30:1
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 Posted 02/09/2022  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
Look what came!!!
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 Posted 02/10/2022  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add windweaver77 to your friends list
Look what came!!
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