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1878 Liberty Seated Dime- You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 12/29/2021  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
I would agree with Jaobler. PR62-63 CAM.
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 Posted 12/29/2021  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
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 Posted 12/29/2021  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I would also agree this one at MS-62, but could also be a MS-63 candidate.
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 Posted 12/29/2021  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Wonderful 1878 Type II.

It's a business strike with a Reverse Die "D." The obverse die has the date in a more central/right position, so it has to be Obverse 4, which makes it Type II, F-104.

Interestingly, the reverse die shows the radial die cracks, which usually are associated with the later die state. The dead give-away for the reverse die is the die gouge between the "M" and "E" of DIME. The obverse die is very close to its terminal die state, and has been polished heavily. This may be one of the last F-104 die pairing coins before the obverse die was swapped out to make the Type II F-107 variety.

There's a lot of chatter on the obverse, but few really sharp knocks. the reverse has some chatter, too, but is better. IMHO, it's obverse MS-62, reverse MS-64, net MS-63, with an eye appeal bump to MS-63+. It's very close to a CAM, but just misses (see UNITED STATES).

Really nice coin!
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 Posted 12/29/2021  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
MS-63 would not surprise, but I don't believe this is a proof.
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It's a business strike with a Reverse Die "D." The obverse die has the date in a more central/right position, so it has to be Obverse 4, which makes it Type II, F-104.


interesting...
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 Posted 12/29/2021  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
The proof die is Type II, Obverse 1, Reverse A, F-101. The date is further left than this coin, and there is rust pitting on the top two folds of the gown on the left knee and die polishing marks on the leaves beneath "ME" of DIME.
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 Posted 12/29/2021  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I'm at MS63. Is this a Fortin coin?
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The proof die is Type II, Obverse 1, Reverse A, F-101. The date is further left than this coin, and there is rust pitting on the top two folds of the gown on the left knee and die polishing marks on the leaves beneath "ME" of DIME


I like this fortcollins.


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Is this a Fortin Coin


Indeed. 90% of my LSD collection comes from Fortin. He's got a quality eye and solid service coupled with the fact he's in an elite group of series experts and if you like owning varieties there's no better place to frequent. I've been acquiring from him for about 10 years now.
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He's got a quality eye and solid service coupled with the fact he's in an elite group of series experts and if you like owning varieties there's no better place to frequent.


I agree 110%.
I bought a few coins from him myself. Always more than satisfied.
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 Posted 12/29/2021  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Excellent analysis by fortcollins. I was thinking PL and not PR.

I also bought 2 coins in the past from Fortin with great quality.
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 Posted 12/30/2021  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
Great guesses by the CCF. I was not anticipating the proof guesses at all. Coinfrog nailed it, great eye friend.

ftcollins must be a student of the series because he certainly was armed with the right information. And to boot, its the finest known variety of the F-104 and the plate coin in Fortin's reference book:

https://www.seateddimevarieties.com..._104page.htm




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 Posted 12/30/2021  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Wowserz dsfreeworld! A super coin Gerry sure does handle some fantastic coins. You are buying from a great source.
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 Posted 12/31/2021  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list
@westcoin thank you friend
Agreed all in all counts
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 Posted 12/31/2021  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Congrats, super coin.
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