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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Smacked with a hammer and a punch. You can see the push out on the reverse. (UN on UNUM)
Edited by coop 12/30/2021 12:20 pm
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What would you guys say if I told you that market looks like a clip has no metal bulging out of the rim like what happened with being hit after being struck and the upset on the rim is really crappy but nothing bulges out past the reeds the highest point of the Reed is all even circle the upset on the opposite side though is really noticeably more there almost to the point of folding over but the highest point the Reed is perfectly round two marks on the reverse post mint damage I know it sounds dumb probably not even possible right hahaha
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 1:37 pm
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And u see the un after using a punch I don't think you've ever used the punch on a coin before then because you see the un and if you can do that with the punch without distorting the un too much you're better than me
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 1:53 pm
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I've shot bird shot really small at a coin to see if it can make a bulge on one side but not that big of a bulge on the other bulge is way too much on the other side way too noticeable not being rude just trying to find answers so it makes me do all this crazy crap now is this possible that maybe one of the main employees who was testing a planchet went to go clip it didn't do it not a full grip right and fling back into the process he wants to keep his job and nobody noticed crazy talk right hahaha
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 2:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Might have been punched on a soft backup like wood, rubber. There wouldn't be any flattening on the reverse. All of this is damage no matter what it's from. And no mint employee tampering.
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Remember when it comes to a punch everything has an equal and opposite reaction the hole is too big for that small of a dent on the back side it's impossible can't do that trust me try it softer the backing the wider The dimple in the back you could barely tap it with a punch to make that little of a dimple put the hole in front would be just as small
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 2:23 pm
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You can also see the metal on the opposite rim that is protruding up from too much pressure I don't know anything at all just an observer getting wealth and knowledge
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Not all the metal is there whenever it is pressed so the pressure of the die is not spread evenly over the whole coin cuz some of the metal is not there to take some of the pressure that it's supposed to so the rest of the coin takes the weight
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 2:43 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 On my coin it looks like it was punched on an anvil, thus the reverse is dispersed. On you coin the bulge on that area tells me it is from being punched on a lesser tensile object, thus the give/push out on the reverse of your coin.
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I'm not being argumentative or nothing like that I totally agree with you it's just kind of suspect I can't get a picture of my phone but the actual copper core is a different off color than usual my phone's so frustrating with pictures if the hole is bigger on the front side then the dimple on the metal should be protruding out the top side just like if you use a metal punch on a piece of steel that doesn't dimple out the back always equal an opposite reaction no matter the backing
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 2:55 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sanaul, I will remind you once again that you are allowed and able to post more than one sentence in a post without needing to create a new post. You are wasting a lot of space here! Post all you have to say in ONE posting, not eight in a row. I am trying to help you here; some readers get turned off seeing you don't consulate your thoughts. I have pointed this out to you before but you don't seem to care that you are wasting space. 
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Got it one chance to give you all the info I know and forget it if someone may be mistaken in a answer this is not a place for discussion or replay one more thing it's hard to tell but the dimple is actually almost completely flush with the coin surface when you compact metal it changes its density when it struck the press has to use less pressure to push down the dimple then the other parts of the coin because there's no metal behind The dimple it makes little imperfections stand out different than other parts of the coin because of the density and different striking pressures the letters are all there if you used a punch to make a dimple that fine you would not have the letters cuz you would have to use too hard of a surface do not distort
Edited by Sanaul 12/31/2021 3:30 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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If you want to change a post, you have 24 hours from the first post to be able to edited your texts. After that it is tougher to edit them.
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Pillar of the Community
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I come back to this post just to specified something to all.
Any coin with mark like Rockwell test are complete simulations of the test, better say FAKE.. The main reason it is : This test is perform on planchet and this because the mint must be sure that the future coins can support the forces of the strike. Those test are done in Lab before strike and not after and no test planchet will reach the production line, which it is almost impossible.
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From The Official Price Guide to Mint Errors by Alan Herbert.  A hardness test marked die is defined as: A die which has been tested with a Rockwell hardness tester, leaving a rounded indentation in the die that shows as a raised, rounded dot on the struck coin. Both planchets and struck coins may also be tested in this manner and are listed in the respective divisions. These are almost impossible to authenticate.
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