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Grading An Error Coin - You Versus A Third Party Grader

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 Posted 01/02/2022  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Cool coin. From lack of experience with them, I don't believe I can offer a meaningful guess on an error.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  12:36 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Counting mark issues, automatic UNC details
Irregardless of what the TPG says .
Nice error!
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 Posted 01/02/2022  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list
TPG AU-55. Coin from a bag ? Looks like it got marks but didn't circulate much. Having no rim let other coins rub against the design which looks weak, especially on the queen's hair and shoulder.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisCat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisCat to your friends list
I'd say 58 from the photos. Otherwise, 62 Brown.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list

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Counting mark issues, automatic UNC details
Irregardless of what the TPG says .
Nice error!


You mean regardless, it was drilled into me most of my life to not say irregardless. That said in bad at English lol.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Didn't think we were learning English 101 here.
If you wish to go there .
Does irregardless mean the same thing as regardless?
Yes. We define irregardless as "regardless." Many people find irregardless to be a nonsensical word, as the ir- prefix usually functions to indicate negation; however, in this case it appears to function as an intensifier.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Yes, just like "flammable" and "inflammable". They mean the same thing.
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 Posted 01/02/2022  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list
@pacificoin, I was just taught that it's basically like saying the bestest. Regardless being an absolute word does not need a prefix to emphasize it. Much like saying better then the best, it's just saying the best.

I didn't mean to try and lecture you on English, as I have said it's not my strong suit. It's just a bit of a trigger for me due to how I was raised lol. I don't actually care how you want to say or write anything. So feel free to ignore that comment it was more of a jest then anything.
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 Posted 01/11/2022  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Well, we have some interesting results here. The majority was of a decent mint state grade (ranging from MS-62 to -64), a couple of high AU guesses, one Unc. Details and a debate of the Queen's English tossed in for good measure.

THIS, is the certificate from the soft flip that I snipped this out of. Purchased from the Colonial Acres website, 02 March 2021. I really need to start photographing these things before I snip them out of the flips...

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The closest guessed grade (AU-55) was still 35 grade points off. That said, I had graded this one myself as MS-63BN, and I think the toning/colour is natural. For fun, it will be submitted to PCGS later this spring, so stay tuned.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I wonder if "Louis" is reading this thread?
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 Posted 01/12/2022  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list
Wow, they definitely under graded this coin. The details are very crisp, it's almost as if they graded the error as It detracts from the grade.i imagine grading an error like this could be tricky but vf2o makes no sense imo.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  11:02 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Okie, the point is not to call a grading company out (because mistakes happen). The main point is to recognize elements of circulation and wear in a toned error. I paid $25 for this coin, a steal for this degree of off-centre, because I saw zero wear on the leaf tips, and I saw that it was not 'ball-capped' on the collar die.

Learn to grade and trust your eyes is the message here to collectors.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list
WOW, VF-20, quelle erreur ! There are a lot of small marks all over the blank sections which is probably what decided the grade. Off course, those marks were on the blank planchet before the strike, and didn't get removed because the die never struck there.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SP67 to your friends list
It's interesting to see the surface finish variation between the raw planchet and the struck zone.
Maybe the planchet portion influenced the certification.

But we agree that those marks are not circulation wear.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinman91 to your friends list
VF20?! Am I missing something or did CCCS totally drop the ball?
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