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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Kinda looks like lead, doesn't it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6394 Posts |
Quite an unattractive piece based on these images. Color could be due to environmental damage. Could also be a counterfeit in lead or other base metal, as suggested by Coinfrog.
What was it about this coin that caught your interest?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agreed, somethings off  , if it is genuine, surfaces look grainy, some kind of ED. Tentative XF Details for me. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
757 Posts |
I love this date! I remember hearing once that the AU and MS examples were hoarded in bags that resided in the New Orleans mint when the Confederacy took it over in 1861. These half dollars are silent witnesses to such a dramatic, pivotal historical moment! Details seem VF(30) to me, with possible environmental damage, but it is tough to judge from the photos. Seated Liberty coins often throw me. I remember submitting an AU example of this very date (although I don't really see wear on it--the surface preservation, especially broken luster on a blast white coin, is probably high AU) I got a long time ago when I was in high school for 175 dollars. I submitted it to PCGS in 2020 and they called it "cleaned," despite no hairlines and some traces of cartwheel luster, especially on the reverse. Finally, NGC put it in an AU(55) slab--I was hoping for an AU(58). Edited by Adam590
01/03/2022 9:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Kinda looks like lead, doesn't it. That's exactly what I thought! This could be a cast lead counterfeit and you couldn't even tell from these terrible photos. I see XF-40 details. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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who knows what this will look like in hand. looks XF40 will need to wait until you have it in hand to determine originality and surfaces
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4337 Posts |
AU details. Looks very dark indeed. Curious to see your in-hand images.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 I will wait for in hand pics. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
I'll stick with EF-40, but it still looks like lead. Edited by Coinfrog
01/10/2022 8:38 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1048 Posts |
It looks genuine but impaired in some as-yet undetermined fashion.
It's an interesting but extremely common date. The market was already flooded with 61-Os even before the Republic shipwreck coins started turning up.
I would have encouraged you to let this one go. I'm not the only seller with lots of better inventory in this date.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11898 Posts |
P2, how many 1861-O halves do you have in inventory? I would be interested in having a look at them. Thanks!
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
I'm sticking with XF Details, ED. Could possibly benefit from an Acetone and/or Xylene bath.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3848 Posts |
Color is very unattractive. A bit of luster around the devices. I agree with Coinfrog, XF-40LLL (Looks Like Lead).
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
18696 Posts |
i had it at XF40 but after the updated photos I'm bumping it to XF45
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