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1975 Uncirculated Set Penny Doubled Die? A Worn Die? Somethings Off, Any Ideas?

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 Posted 01/17/2022  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Hoping to see full, large and sharp photos--ideally one coin per thread. Might be a difficult decision to remove the coins from the cello packaging. I do it all the time, but that's just me.
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 Posted 01/17/2022  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
No clue what's going on from these images.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrjessestrong to your friends list
Ya. Looks like I'll have to remove it and take proper photos. That photo editor provided when uploading photos is the same one I had on a site in 2001. I'll take better photos and edit the size in a separate program. Thanks so far for the input.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrjessestrong to your friends list
Ok. Resized new photos on a separate program. I hope these are ok. I'm going to post a photo of the whole coin along with a few close ups on my microscope screen.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
I do not see a doubling here.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrjessestrong to your friends list
So not doubling, what could have happened here? In the photo that includes the full "1 cent" I tried to show the extremely sloped edges between the lobes of the leaf. Every other penny I have compared have real defined, 90% edges. It's a very gradual slope that come off the edges of the leaf a long way. The photo of the stems of the leaf isn't great but that's another area where all of the edges are gradual. The small lines you see on the inside of the stems are where the edges end. Then again there's that almost webbing between the lobes on the outside of the bottom leaf. It's just something I've never seen and when I pulled out a few dozen pennies of the same year and surrounding I couldn't find anything similar. Doubling maybe isn't the terminology I should have used in my question. Does anybody know how this might have happened? Is it something you've seen many times? I appreciate the feedback thus far.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
If you need a scope to see anything, how would a variety or error collector pay a premium for something you can"t readily see ?
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 Posted 01/18/2022  08:23 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Sometimes, the RCM lacquered the 1-cent coins in their PL and SP sets. This is looks like a combination of two things: over-polishing of the reverse die, with lacquer shouldering the devices.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrjessestrong to your friends list
Who said anything about selling this coin at a premium, John? I sure didn't. I'm asking how it happened. SPP, thank you for your input. I appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list

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This is a stock picture I had on hand of the ghosting your questioning about. Examined many of these 1975 sets and they are fairly common. It is kinda cool.
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 Posted 01/18/2022  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
To me, it just looks like light reflecting/refracting off the tapered font of the design elements. The dies are tapered so that the planchet doesn't stay stuck in the die. Maybe they changed the angle or design of the die taper. If there was no light reflection from the taper, there would be no ghosting.
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 Posted 01/19/2022  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mrjessestrong to your friends list
Thanks a lot Chad, for that photo. That's exactly what the coin I have looks like. Something I haven't come across so I was interested to know a little bit about it. I appreciate you pulling that photo up to post.
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Here is what happens when you severely overpolish a reverse die... elements close to the level of the fields, blend in with the fields.

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 Posted 01/19/2022  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Collecting coins is not see at 100x or more. Collecting coins mean 25x and not more 50x. If you bring me the coin in lab and we look at 1000x or more nothing will fit with mint design. An error or variety is attribute at 25x, only some cases of planchet at 50x. the angle, light, etc and the calibration of your camera and the computer play a lot.

Your coin is an end of the life of the Die, also SSP post same kind of coin. Those small differences are in the Mint parameters. Thing after 200k KM your car will run same like at 5K KM?
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