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Grade On This Beauty, 1921 D Morgan

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 Posted 02/09/2022  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Didn't mean to offend anyone, apologies if I did.
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 Posted 02/09/2022  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list
No worries! No harm No foul! Takes more than that for me to get my feelings hurt
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 Posted 02/09/2022  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Here is a link to the VAM number. http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/1921-D_VAM-1R
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 Posted 02/09/2022  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 91o_collector to your friends list
dave700x beat me to the VAM listing, but here is a photo showing die break similar to your coin.
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 Posted 02/09/2022  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
And here is a link to images of a 1R example from @SsuperDdave. https://www.coincommunity.com/us_do...n_dollar.asp
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 Posted 02/09/2022  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
as originally pointed out and confirmed by the rim shots the coin was probably dropped and its not a Cud. I dont think thats the big issue here. the issue is with the huge hit on the breast.
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 Posted 02/09/2022  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list
I get it, that's a big ding, and maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle, but I'm trying to figure out what could cause those 3, actually there's a 4th to the left of the biggest, that's the smallest, but they all seem to be the exact same damage, in 4 different sizes!! I'm trying to figure out how this thing either hit, or got hit, by the same object, at the same angle 4 times, that made the same ding just in 4 different sizes? And there's no brighter colors anywhere on the damage, the color is uniform! If you look at the biggest on the breast, you can see what looks like the pull pin of a grenade, on the right side! If you look at the 2nd biggest, it also has the same pull pin image in the same place. The 3rd largest, doesn't show the pull pin as defined as other two, but is still visible with naked eye. Now the smallest on the wing is just shaped the same, as it's too mall to see detail! That's normal?
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 Posted 02/09/2022  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list
I've been trying to search to see if the 1R VAM is a common VAM, but with no luck? Anyone have any insight as to that particular VAM's rarity?
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 Posted 02/09/2022  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list
No doubt its right online with the 1R, on both sides will try to post some good pics! An I know, it's a damaged coin, but I think it's pretty froggin cool that that my only Morgan has a special VAM # of which I learned about today
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 Posted 02/10/2022  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Keep in mind that all Morgan and Peace dollars are VAMs and a very small percentage of those VAM numbers command any sort of premium over the base value of the coin itself.
This is a cool VAM given the die crack has some field displacement but unfortunately for this example the reverse is severely damaged...
As for the rarity there are 18 examples accounted for in the SSDC census registry which makes it appear less common than many top 100, Hot 50 and Hit list 40 varieties.
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AU-53 straight
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 Posted 02/11/2022  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list
Thanks guys! I tried find something that could tell me which VAM's were common, or at least a ranking of em, to no avail! I hate someone shot my eagle with, what looks like bean bag rounds, in the chest! Likely, why the paw in law gave to me in the first place! Bet he wouldn't have, had he known about the VAM, but I don't plan on selling regardless! Then again, I didn't know either, until entering this forum and it's plethora of knowledge! Thanks CCF!
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 Posted 02/11/2022  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
There's not really a list per se, other than the top 50 or 100. These can change with rarity and interest over the years.

To sum it up: How rare or how common a VAM is is notated by the rarity scale. How much of a premium a VAM carries is a combination of rarity and collector interest. There are VAMs that are more rare than some listed on the top 100, but if collector interest is low, premiums are low.

Rarity and collector interest is listed direct below the VAM listing in VAMWorld. Here's a screenshot of each. I'd check out the link below to get an overview of attributing VAMs

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...ribution_101


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 Posted 02/11/2022  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Also keep in mind most if not all rarity and interest levels were the best guess by Leroy Van Allen at the time of discovery. A few VAMs have an adjusted rarity level in parenthesis after the original (LVA) rarity based on the SSDC populations.
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