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1957 Lincoln Memorial Cent With A 57/57?

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 Posted 01/31/2009  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
None that I can see.
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 Posted 01/31/2009  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list
I believe there is a notching at the bottom tip of the 5. Try darkening the pic.
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 Posted 01/31/2009  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
It could possibly have notching in the bottom of the 5, but that's more likely something that transferred fromt he working hub to the die than anything else. It's not a doubled die, because not only is the notch in the wrong place to be a doubled die, but the type it would have to be to have a notch there would show stronger doubling on the 7 than the 5...which isn't there at all.

Not every notch means a doubled die. Most of the time they are somethig else. ONE of the characteristics of most types of doubled dies is notching - but notching by itself on one device without doubling anywhere else means nothing, really.
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 Posted 02/01/2009  02:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list
Thanks coppercoins, you stated "...but notching by itself on one device without doubling anywhere else means nothing, really". Okay I understand, but for an extra spread or extra bar in lets say just one letter would already suffice as a doubled die, and does not need additional doubling somewhere else, is that correct?
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 Posted 02/01/2009  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basicbob101 to your friends list
I must be seeing things, but I see a faint trace of a 5 and 7 protruding to the left edge, ever so slightly.
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 Posted 02/01/2009  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
It really depends on where that spread would be. If it's in one of the places that 'makes sense' for the coin to be a doubled die in the classic sense, there's nothing wrong with listing them and calling them doubled dies. But a notch in a single letter where IF that notch was a part of a doubled die there would certainly be notching elsewhere, and that elsewhere notching simply isn't there, then we have th examine other causes of the notching. That's the case this time.
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 Posted 02/01/2009  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here is another example of a notch that is not a doubled die.
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There is nothing doubled, it is just part of the design for that year. On a real doubled die more areas would be affected.
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...op_008PR.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._COOP_01.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...P_1-R-II.jpg
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 Posted 02/01/2009  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list
Thank you all. I really don't care if this coin is doubled die or not but it's fun learning from it. Are those some doubling where the arrows are or just die wear?

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 Posted 02/02/2009  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Hard to tell on a circulated coin. Damage happens even on coins that just left the mint. If it was it would be very minor, so I saying no.
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 Posted 02/02/2009  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list
Okay thanks coop and for the pics too.
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 Posted 02/02/2009  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
While you may have notches on all the corners you point to, I don't see all of them, and the notches you see on the 5 do not match each other. They would have to match the position and spread of each other for this to be a doubled die.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jazzcoins to your friends list
coppercoins is right there is no notching on the 57 it's not a doubled die I think what I'm seeing is Machine Doubling if you look to the left of the 7 and the 5 It looks like it has a flat shelf like appearance Just my opinion

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 Posted 02/03/2009  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list
How about this one. Is it also notched or just a MD also? Having on just one number.

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 Posted 02/03/2009  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
If you are talking about the 7 of the date, it's damage. Look at the resulting shape of the highest part of the relief. It slants. A normal 7 would not slant like this, and on a doubled die, each impression left on the die is a normal part of the design.
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 Posted 02/03/2009  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jazzcoins to your friends list
I agree a damaged seven
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