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Thoughts On This 1878 S Trade Dollar Please

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 Posted 03/12/2022  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I'm at VF-35.
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 Posted 03/12/2022  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Just because a coin finds it way into a straight grade holder does not mean that the coin has original skin. The TPG's straight grade coins all the time that have market acceptable cleaning. I do believe that the coin has a better than even chance to straight grade. We both know that there are lots of Trade dollars that we would not buy because the coin has been cleaned or dipped in a straight grade holder. Congratulations on owning a Trade dollar. If you get the coin into a straight grade holder, I would consider it a strong first buy of a Trade dollar.
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 Posted 03/12/2022  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
For sure , there are many straight graded cleaned coins in TPG holders no doubt. I have no experience with Trade dollars but many I have seen do to appear to have been cleaned. This one I would say is not one of them but thats me looking at it in hand. Looks pretty original to me.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
looks like she had an old cleaning but I think it grades straight. XF40.


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Very nice looking in hand minus a very old scratch at are 11 to 12 o'clock


if you blow that area up you will see what appears to be a scratch does not cross over the olive branch. I dont think its a scratch.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
Tried with different lighting and a white background.
You can see it still has some luster more so on the reverse.

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 Posted 03/13/2022  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Here is a 1875 S XF45 CAC that I believe has original skin. Compare the area around the stars and date to the 78 S. How did the 78 S get a perfect halo around the stars? On the 78 S note the color between the numbers on the Date. Someone cleaned between the numbers 1 and 8, 8 and 7 but missed cleaning between the 8 and 7.
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Hi Slider the halo is not perfect , probably lighting distortion showing the darkest areas?
It does have quite a bit of dirt or grime around the date , stars and in the letters but does not appear to be from cleaning.
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Ill get back to everyone once she grades . I think the only issue would be the scratch but we will see. Basing this on seeing it in hand and having looked at so many coins . we will see though thanks for all the opinions.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
This one came back from NGC today XF-45
Here is NGC pics as well.

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 Posted 06/13/2022  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Thanks for the update! Congrats, but a bit generous IMO.
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I thought it was xf-40 to xf-45 but the color is nice so probably got a eye appeal bump.
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 Posted 06/13/2022  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Very nice!
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 Posted 06/13/2022  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Much different from your original pics. Very appealing.
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Coinfrog thanks . My photo skills need help no doubt.
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Well done.
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