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2022 Proof Quarter Questions

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 Posted 03/13/2022  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blank page to your friends list
This seemed to go off topic into a scope discussion, which was fun, but I still wouldn't mind some opinions on the quarters also.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Must be slight Machine Doubling issues on the corners of the devices. Why are these not a doubled die? Because of the single squeeze dies the DDR/DDR's are on the central area of the design. The devices are not enlarged, but normal in size, just those marks on the outside corners of the devices.
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If those areas are showing just fields on those areas, they probably won't have doubled dies on that design. But look at the centers of the design, not on the outside edges of the outside devices.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Most of that looks like some liquid residue, perhaps from the washing and incomplete drying of the blank proof planchets at the mint?
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 Posted 03/13/2022  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blank page to your friends list
I wasn't actually looking at the edges. In the flat area where LIBERTY is written, I was wondering about the hazy area. I cant tell if it is some residue from cleaning maybe, or something in the quarters. On the first 4 pictures, it looks like it runs underneath the word for lack of a better description. The 5th picture has the same thing just beside the T. The final picture, I cant tell if its a crack, or if a fiber made it inside the case. I assumed viewing through plastic is why the corners looked a little off.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Possible thread like pieces of cello/thread/fiber. Leave it there. Keep the coins safe in the holder.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blank page to your friends list
Thanks for the feedback. I have no intentions of opening them.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

At the base of the 'Y' looks like a hair on top of the coin surface, or maybe on the case - you can see a reflection of it on the coin. What is the composition of the coin? Clad or Silver?

Nice pictures though. What did you use to get the images? ok just kidding there
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 Posted 03/13/2022  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
I am not seeing where the OP asked about a doubled die in this inquiry. Only for opinions on what they "were" seeing. I believe if him/her thought that is was a doubled die they might have suggested that observation.
Doubled dies is not the only thing that is asked about. Often it refers to unexplained anomalies. The obvious answer is not a doubled die. Anyone can answer the obvious. What about the not so obvious. Many can say with confidence what it is not. But the question asked is the key to the response. Conclusively stating that is not a doubled die without suggesting what it "could" be does not help those wanting to learn what is going on.
I have seen many occasions when knowledable members have to soon, dismissed finds as being nothing only to find out it is something by someone taking more time to examine the presented specimen.
Without further diligence of more observation by other participants, the OP might have tossed a good find.
I have learned a good deal here. That is why I only post an inquiry pertaining to something I do not have an answer to after looking for all information available to me. Mostly from this forum.
I could easily have 5000 posts and obtain an exalted title if I only replied to what you don't have and why it is not.
Sometimes I wonder how many posts are actually read before
posting a reply based only on the images. I have observed this on numerous occasions.
For example, after 10 replies, someone figures out it is LMC being looked at and not a LWC. You read the title, look at images, then give opinions on what it is or is not. Perhaps you missed something in the text of the post.
Please do not take this wrong. I realize that there are
"many" learned and experienced members here. And so much of your advice and research has helped me eminsly.
I have come to know through responses to questions of my own , and others, those truly interested in what you have to offer for advice and opinions, opposed to, those whom endeavor to add to their post list and title, thus making you appear as an expert in your field..
I have nearly 50 years in my trade, still going to work every day at 66 and I have never, ever referred to myself as and expert. And I never will. Not one day goes by that I do not learn something.
I have learned throughout my life, and lived by it, that opinions are like A*******. And I have also learned that if your opion does not address the question, just don't give it.
The majority of responses here belong in another forum. The pertinent ones are confusing at times.
Ask for more clarifications and take it from there.
I doubt that this reply will even be posted. And I am sure that it will not be added to my number of posts because it has nothing to do with the OP's question. As it should be.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blank page to your friends list
Dearborn. yes the fiber on the bottom of the Y is inside the case but I knew it was not on the coin by the shadow cast. The first 4 pictures show the blemish behind the ERTY in LIBERTY that I was asking if this was residue from cleaning, or something in the coin. Picture 5 shows the same residue next to the T on another coin in the case. Picture 6 I wasn't sure if it was a crack or a fiber. I can not get that one to throw a shadow.

Dowhat, I see your points here, and although the questions I had were skipped past on a post, I am also new to this, so anything an experienced person sees that I didn't would be welcome information as well. My follow up questions were answered after that as well.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
to the CCF Thats quality control at the mint. You wouldn't think the mint uses water on proof sets, but I think they do. My set has the same amount of milk spots as yours. And even though they have a blue background, there are black shreds of plastic floating around in the case.
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Thanks Cujohn, sounds like a pretty definite conclusion, and thanks for the welcome. I wasn't expecting errors when I ordered them but it would have been neat to see anyway
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 Posted 03/13/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
It is believe that the white spots comes from the combination residues of cleaning solution of the blankets and the strike oiling glycerin solution of the strike. ANA on their academia has the video of the striking process. It is also believe that the purity of the water which it is use has a big contribution on. The worst mint of this was at one point the Canadian Mint, and some studies show that the alkaline water use was the cause.

In your case, I will look from some times to see if the chemical reaction stabilize or is on go. If continue, I suggest to take out from that capsule and replace with a new one well clean and dry and respect the norms for re-slabbing. Hope will not be necessary this but if you come to this just e-mail me and I will instruct how to do. Could be clean now but I do not thing is worth the price.

Your TOMOLOV was suppose to have the USB connection cable in the box. If not call the company and they will send you one free.
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Thanks for the info silviosi. I will keep an eye on them
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 Posted 03/13/2022  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list

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I have nearly 50 years in my trade, still going to work every day at 66


@Dowhat: I do not understand your frustration against the members of this community.

Your comments (not first time) do not fit the postings. After 50 years of this industry you learn just to critic? and not to answer of the posts questions?

The OP questions was answer on any aspects: read COOP, John1 and Dearborn for example.

You know? I do not thing this forum and the community need an "Moralist Wolf" of LaFontaine fibula. Please answer to the posts and do not critic, is better for all of us; and remember no one is perfect or on determinate time can see exact just from photos. Here anyone want to help, just this and give his/her own opinion of X or Y subject.

thanks for your comprehensions.
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....it looks like it runs underneath the word for lack of a better description....


That is why I'm thinking it has to do with the anomaly being on the planchet before being struck.
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