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1946 1-DO-007 If I'm Seeing Right

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 Posted 03/19/2022  07:45 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list

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I'm wondering if that hair/head marker isn't just MDD.
I thought about that and may be but to me, it looks identical, between the OP's and cc's 007. Maybe trenching/channeling?

cc's 007 https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mds

Error Ref's trenching/channeling https://www.error-ref.com/retouchin...gn-elements/
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 Posted 03/19/2022  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list
Curious as to why it is that the RED label [for the 1953 proof cent] is essentially channeling but comes with a premium and FS designation but, channeling on the business strike does not.
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Curious as to why it is that the RED label [for the 1953 proof cent] is essentially channeling but comes with a premium and FS designation but, channeling on the business strike does not.
The powers that be....

I have a couple of raw ones that need cleaned up a little but are MS. You can go on the bay, pretty much anytime and find them unattributed and slabbed in MS grade. Way to common for an FS label.
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 Posted 03/19/2022  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hlw1976 to your friends list
Okay so even though the eyelid is doubled on here it's not a DDO.
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Okay so even though the eyelid is doubled on here it's not a DDO.
Not sure if you are talking about your coin or the listed coin and who you are talking to.

My statement to you, a couple of posts ago.
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It's different from cc's 007 and any listing on any site but do think it's a DDO.
This is about your eyelid.

What we are questioning, is what is being called doubling, above the hair, on yours and cc's 007. It is just odd that your doubled eyelid is different than cc's 007 but would appear to have the exact same doubling above the hair, so we are thinking what's above the hair may be something else. My statement above.
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I'm wondering about the so called "doubling" above the hair now on the 007, with your pic of the same, it's making wonder if it's something else.
CentSation's statement, above.
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I'm wondering if that hair/head marker isn't just MDD.
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Makesense I was talking to you for your statement earlier..'

"It's different from cc's 007 and any listing on any site but do think it's a DDO. Maybe look closer at all the other devices to see if there is any slight doubling anywhere else. I'm wondering about the so called "doubling" above the hair now on the 007, with your pic of the same, it's making wonder if it's something else. I have occasional contact with Bob, the one who attributed 007. I'll touch base with him and ask his opinion or you could send it directly to him at VV (Coneca), for attribution."
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03/19/2022 3:27 pm
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And I believe that igwt there's slight doubling
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Yours is more than likely class 4 doubling and would be in the same direction. If you had other doubling, it would be heading north and slightly east, the same as your doubled eyelid. The only thing I see in the new pics is maybe a little inside the G, moving in the same direction but not sure. Sometimes you can see slight doubling just above the T's in trust or slight doubling above or inside the date, once again moving in the same direction. Here is a link to the different classes. https://www.error-ref.com/?s=doubled+die

Very nice pics, by the way.
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After I thought about it there was a couple spots on him that didn't look quite right his forehead,nose,chin,bowtie,and shirt. I went back and took some pictures of it tell me what you think
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 Posted 03/19/2022  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
It looks like what I referred to earlier in your post, about what was going on above the hair. Here is the link I posted earlier. https://www.error-ref.com/retouchin...gn-elements/
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hlw1976 said,
"After I thought about it there was a couple spots on him that didn't look quite right his forehead,nose,chin,bowtie,and shirt. I went back and took some pictures of it tell me what you think"

This link should make things as clear as mud regarding: MasterDieDoubling.

Just scroll down to the year 1946
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I seen the Machine Doubling on it but if you look close enough at the nose the nose has a rise in it right up next to the nose is another crease it looks like it's doubled right beside where it's machine died too
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Okay the question still remains on here have we figured out anything on it and I understand about the nose and the rest of it being machined sorry about the comment earlier I was seeing what I thought I wanted to see. But the case of the hair has anyone figured it out?
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hlw1976, I would suggest posting your coin on CONECA's forum and you can have Bob Piazza look directly at at.

LINK https://board.conecaonline.org/
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Thank you makecents
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