1892 P Type I Rev. Tdr 001 PCI MS-63 Old Blue Holder

I do see some possibility of tripling. Any chance you could provide some clear closeups? With a variety like this that's not so easy to see, I think closeups are your best bet here. QUARTER and UNITED would be the best area to look at based off of FS-801 on CoinFacts. I don't have any reference to see if any other DDR's could match for this date.

-CH27

Here is a pic. courtesy of PCGScoinfacts of an unattributed MS63 1892 reverse type I. Note the same obverse die markings and reverse die chip on first S of STATES.
Blue holder PCI slabs on u.s. coins are not rare their circa 2015 so crack! out it goes. Will get pics of it out of slab. Everything matches up sort of? Am a little underwhelmed as after you twirl whirl hold sideways and tap on floor 3 times you finally see tripling.
I don't know maybe this type I reverse DDR variety is like those 1970's DDO proof silver Ike dollars - that being more are hub doubled than not?
LOL not complaining as the reason I bought it was the type I reverse and a gamble it might get an MS 62 straight at ANACS. From digging up pics of attributed FS - 801 examples by NGC and PCGS I notice their all a little different i.e. die chips in STATES and level of doubling are not exact. Taking die state into account this TDR imo leaves me more questions than answers.

Very nice looking coin. Most of the time they are not that nice.

kbbpil now that's a blue bird barber nice coin. No expert but dived into the 92 TDR and the info is discombobulating and then poof drops off a cliff. I don't know there is a bunch of these and when worn die markings go away it's hard for anyone to nail down if there's one or several 1892 TDR reverse type 1. I'm not up to the challenge of research and writing so will get this in a slab and take lots of pics before it goes to ANACS to share at some other point.

Mine is an AU58 and I purchased it early this year to have a Rev1 example. Now I see that it is a good match with the S die chips seen on this Heritage example, which says "Minute doubling is evident on a few letters on the reverse, including QUA and UNITED, and the top curves of the first and last S are partially filled. Those reverse die characteristics are similar to both varieties 102 and 103 in The Complete Guide to Barber quarters by David Lawrence. " https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-qua...bnail-071515 The images on that Heritage listing are quite good, and show the doubling in Quarter.

The Lawrence reference is here: https://archive.org/details/compgui...n33/mode/2up

Perhaps 102 and 103 are really the same? I guess I'll have to haul out the microscope. My S die chips seem to be a match, but multiple dies could also chip in those places in the same fashion. I see now that my STATES shows some doubling.

HA top, mine below.


You and @stoneman227 might consider getting in touch with the varieties team at the BCCS journal. They're making an effort to ramp up their varieties section, and if either of yours is previously unknown maybe consider writing an article.

Awesome kbbpil yes its high time I join the bccs I'm a total nut for half's and quarters and dimes are on the horizon. Thankfully I hoarded over 300 raw lowgrades from dealers from 2017 - 2019 looking for originals I didn't need. doubles triples quadruples of common but not actually so common dates. Made alot of mistakes and still making them but man I can smell original G-F 7 feet away. Caught tail end of cheap barbers and today these things are 25-40 bucks each. How about that 1905 O? I'm getting way out there in barberspace.
Im theorizing their are 2 TDR type 1 reverses myself. Coin I have is doubled all over minutely has some serifs arrows doubled but not moderate doubling anywhere? More to follow.

I have an $8.00 clip on scope but look at the right base of every letter you can see tiny tic tic tics only way to get tripling to show is coin slanted downwards...it lets you see lots of neat tripling but refuses to let you snap it in pic. Baaah! humbug