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Grade And Value For This 1826 Matron Large Cent Please

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 Posted 06/05/2022  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
I was on PCGS coinfacts looking at the real deal and saw a few main differences of the OP as already mentioned.
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 Posted 06/05/2022  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Herestohoping to your friends list

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 Posted 06/05/2022  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
Now this lower grade example looks like the real deal to me, gradewise a G-6 to me.
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 Posted 06/06/2022  12:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
So is it safe to say one slid past Numismatic Student as genuine but was actually fake?

Yes, yes it is safe to say
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 Posted 06/06/2022  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I knew it was a ringer as soon as I saw the date. That's why I asked how it had been acquired.
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 Posted 06/06/2022  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
I'm in the fake box on this one for multiple reasons
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 Posted 06/06/2022  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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So is it safe to say one slid past Numismatic Student as genuine but was actually fake?

Yes, yes it is safe to say


Anyone who posts grades on CCF on a regular basis has most likely posted grades to a counterfeit. My radar went up that the coin may be a fake after I read the paralyse post about where the coin was obtained.

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 Posted 08/29/2022  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Herestohoping to your friends list
Well it was not fake sold it to local coin shop got 140.00 for it
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 Posted 08/29/2022  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list
coin is 100% a fake. its not close to any of the known dies. the star relative to the coronet tip and the leaf under the second s in states arent in the correct locations.
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 Posted 08/29/2022  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
I just read through all the comments hoping that the most recent post to resurrect this would be showing it slabbed and getting a straight 'authentic' grade from PCGS or NGC thus throwing a real spanner in the works. Anyway, in this case, I'm sure it is a fake due to all the reasons mentioned, and if you compare it to authentic examples you can see why.
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 Posted 08/29/2022  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Stand by my opinion that it's 100% bogus as the day is long (and somewhere a dealer who needs more education cost themselves $140.)
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 Posted 08/29/2022  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I'm curious if you informed the coin shop that a bunch of people here told you it was fake.
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Well it was not fake sold it to local coin shop got 140.00 for it


I'm betting the owner was not well versed in early copper and just assumed it was legit. I hope you sold this to them before you knew it was a counterfeit otherwise shame on you for ripping them off . in fact whether you knew or not you need to go back to them and give them their money back.
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 Posted 08/30/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list
For confirmation as to this being counterfeit, I posted the coin on another forum. Jack D. Young, Early American Coppers (EAC), says both the obverse and reverse are wrong for the date. He even had a couple of them in his collection he calls The Dark Side.
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 Posted 08/30/2022  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
May the power of guilt compel you to return the coin shop owner's money!
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