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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks, I forwarded to CoinWorld. Please upload images of 2017a $50 with Large fonts or small fonts from blocks known to also have large fonts in them. So far FA and GA blocks are the only known so far to have both small and large fonts but this may change. CA, DA, FA, GA and KA have found large fonts but its only a small sample so far. HA is the only block with no sample mentioned so far. sm = small font, lg = large font. AA Boston sm BA New York sm, B* sm CA Philadelphia lg DA Cleveland lg, DB sm EA Richmond sm, EB sm FA Atlanta sm lg, FB sm GA Chicago sm lg HA St. Louis unknown IA Minneapolis sm JA Kansas City sm KA Dallas lg LA San Francisco sm Edited by datadragon
06/29/2022 12:58 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the importance but this has been happening with $20s for over a decade now. The larger plate number references notes that were printed with the new(er) Super Orlof Intaglio machines which are capable of printing 50-subject sheets (as $1s and $5s are currently printed), although $50s and $20s are still printed on 32-subject sheets.
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06/29/2022 10:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding the importance but this has been happening with $20s for over a decade now. The larger plate number references notes that were printed with the new(er) Super Orlof Intaglio machines which are capable of printing 50-subject sheets (as $1s and $5s are currently printed), although $50s and $20s are still printed on 32-subject sheets. Correct. Both font sizes have been found however on 2017a $50 bills indicating both machines likely were used, one possibly may be in error (or is a variation due to whatever reason it was done) unless you are saying dual font sizes are found regularly in other recent 20 and 50 bills.The larger font historically should indicate those notes were printed on 50-subject sheets by SOI presses as you are also mentioning. At the moment this thread may help to determine the extent of the differences and has progressed from only two known notes in the larger font to several known blocks so far containing the larger font to some degree, and at least two blocks so far FA and GA that are known to contain both small and large fonts. Edited by datadragon
06/29/2022 11:09 pm
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unless you are saying dual font sizes are found regularly in other recent 20 and 50 bills Exactly. For $20s, Series 2006 DC, Series 2013 DC and FW, Series 2017 FW, and Series 2017A DC exist with both large and small front plate numbers (possibly also 2017 DC and 2017A FW, I just don't have an example at the moment). Series 2009 DC only exists with large plate numbers. There was a survey conducted on Where's George with data going on the serial number website http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/soi.html though this study has fallen off a bit in recent years. As far as $50s go, this is the first series seen with large plate numbers. However, I'm not sure it signifies 50-subject sheets because these larger sheets require different plate position markers (A1 through H4 seen on 32-subject sheets, but A1 through J5 seen on 50). Ones and fives (series 2017A) printed on 50-subject sheets have a plate position marker where the letter and number are the same size, while the letter is larger than the number on 32-subject notes (and 2017A $50s even with the large front plate number). Regardless, I'm always for more data. Edited by coinsearcher83
06/30/2022 07:21 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Good Information  Since this is the first series of $50 I was aware of (that you now have confirmed) seen with large plate numbers, it still remains to be known if the larger fonts will carry any premium value or worthwhile to hold onto. Uploading the photos with the plate numbers of the bills found with larger fonts, and also small fonts found in the blocks known to have larger fonts in them also to this thread may help give more information also. I was aware of the 2006 $20 but had not looked into the more recent bills yet after reading the article and its interesting you note they also have some known to carry both font sizes. It would appear with the $20 bills that since they are being found in several series and therefore not uncommon they probably dont carry any added value on its own. However you could start a new thread asking to upload photos of large/small fonts of the $20 bill with some examples for these series and a repost of what you just mentioned here if you would like to try to further the information known about them with the communities help or just then point them to report to uspapermoney. This thread can remain for the 2017a $50s only. Edited by datadragon
06/30/2022 10:14 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I gave USPaperMoney the updated info so far on the 2017a $50 and had previously sent some of it to a CoinWorld editor so I'll post if there are any further updates from their end to me at some point, especially on value as I'm sure most will want to know if this is something worth holding onto or just for additional information such as USPaperMoney has so far with the $20s. It says Note that while other denominations have been printed on the SOI presses, for some reason only the $20's have used the enlarged face plate numbers. So we are dealing with only $20s and this one series of 2017a $50. |
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I found two new to the table: BB block, one with small digits, one large, I've added them to the table below.
Table of Plate Number Sizes found for $50 Series 2017A
Refer to plate number digits at upper right corner of front of note
Pairs of letters below represent district and printing block
sm = small, lg = large
AA sm
BA sm, B* sm, BB sm lg
CA lg
DA lg, DB sm
EA sm, EB sm
FA sm lg, FB sm
GA sm lg
HA
IA sm
JA sm
KA lg
LA sm
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Pillar of the Community
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I found an EA block example with large digits, now added to the table below.
Table of Plate Number Sizes found for $50 Series 2017A
Refer to plate number digits at upper right corner of front of note
Pairs of letters below represent district and printing block
sm = small, lg = large
AA sm
BA sm, B* sm, BB sm lg
CA lg
DA lg, DB sm
EA sm lg, EB sm
FA sm lg, FB sm
GA sm lg
HA
IA sm
JA sm
KA lg
LA sm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I found IA and LA block examples with large digits, now added to the table below.
Table of Plate Number Sizes found for $50 Series 2017A
Refer to plate number digits at upper right corner of front of note
Pairs of letters below represent district and printing block
sm = small, lg = large
AA sm
BA sm, B* sm, BB sm lg
CA lg
DA lg, DB sm
EA sm lg, EB sm
FA sm lg, FB sm
GA sm lg
HA
IA sm lg
JA sm
KA lg
LA sm lg
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Steve, thanks, but FWIW that wavelengthinteractive site sets off all sorts of security warnings in my browser.
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Pillar of the Community
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I found an HA block example with large digits, now added to the table below. Across districts, large digits seem to be more common than small.
Table of Plate Number Sizes found for $50 Series 2017A
Refer to plate number digits at upper right corner of front of note
Pairs of letters below represent district and printing block
sm = small, lg = large
AA sm
BA sm, B* sm, BB sm lg
CA lg
DA lg, DB sm
EA sm lg, EB sm
FA sm lg, FB sm
GA sm lg
HA lg
IA sm lg
JA sm
KA lg
LA sm lg
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Out of the 28 FW 50's I just checked. Only two of them had the large font. Both 2017A
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Pillar of the Community
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the new entry is FC lg
Table of Plate Number Sizes found for $50 Series 2017A
Refer to plate number digits at upper right corner of front of note
Pairs of letters below represent district and printing block
sm = small, lg = large
AA sm
BA sm, B* sm, BB sm lg
CA lg
DA lg, DB sm
EA sm lg, EB sm
FA sm lg, FB sm, FC lg
GA sm lg
HA lg
IA sm lg
JA sm
KA lg
LA sm lg
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