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"Fake Morgan" Update.

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 Posted 03/26/2009  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rays89 to your friends list
I have been researching this seller. looking at his past sales present ones and even what he buys. When they used to have the buyer's screenames I was good at catching "shills". He has been selling for 2 years. I am surprised he lasted so long. He specializes in antique collectibles like photographs, cards and coins all of these items I can pretty much guess are fake. Wile looking at the Morgans I noticed his photos are getting blurry. But it seems the toning and wear on these coins a very close to identical. He is getting greedy and careless and presently has of all things up for auction an 1895P Morgan Item number: 120396771063 With a Buy it now for $5000. With some rather clear pictures at that
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 Posted 03/27/2009  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rays89 to your friends list
Looks like his auctions got pulled Though he still is a registered user
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 Posted 03/30/2009  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jnm444 to your friends list
Responding to replies here.
Morgans dad....I don't know how to send a private message regarding my email addy.
Yes, over the past couple of months, I've kept,copied and bookmarked info on this person. I believe he has another ebay user name also as some items appear similar, as well as same types of neg feedback, but I can't confirm that.

After 3 months of complaining and writing ebay
and Paypal, this person I've been writing about
on my other "FAKE MORGAN" posts finally did himself
in, as noted by a previous member post here.. by
listing and selling these 2 "Morgans"..........
ebay 120396060299 and 110367754808, then refused 2
recent requests for refunds and has moved, (seller states).
I'm told, on the phone with ebay this morning that he is now restricted from future sales.
Unfortunately, several Ebayers already lost a lot of
money buying his fakes.
Note to Ebayers returning mdse for refunds..USE
TRACKING info, not as I did..sent regular mail.
*SIDE note* ..my profile, for whatever reason,
states my age as 13(?) I'm 67,lol, and I'm
trying to figure out how to edit it.
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 Posted 03/30/2009  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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my profile, for whatever reason,
states my age as 13(?) I'm 67,lol, and I'm
trying to figure out how to edit it.


Heh. That's easier to fix than this jerk has been. Look here:

https://goccf.com/t/30968

Gotta do it in exactly that order.
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 Posted 04/06/2009  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cuzzx to your friends list
Good luck with this problem.

I bid on something a month ago and when the auction was over I paid with paypal, about ten minutes later ebay sends me a email telling me they pulled this guys items right after it was over, yes, right after I paid. I appealed and now one month later, still waiting.

now, last saturday I went to my local flemart and ran across this guy that had a mall plastic box with about ten fake morgans in it. he was getting $2.00 each and they were listed as fake.

i bought one just to have, 1902 cc. side by side with a real morgan one can see the difference, but by it's self it's kind of hard.

but like I said above, good luck with ebay and paypal.
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 Posted 04/07/2009  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list
Interesting thread, the guy still has no ebay sales listed, perhaps he was "temporarily suspended" which is a ebay cop-out, a slap on the wrist, then it's back to business as usual. I still buy on ebay, but since the advent of Chinese counterfeits, I'm very, very, particular. Anything important will be purchased certified only (and not in a Chinese made slab!).
ebay has lost alot of business because of it's own actions, and will be losing alot more because of their lack of enforcing their own safty policies. If they aren't careful, they will become "just another online auction" ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/07/2009  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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If they aren't careful, they will become "just another online auction"

If it did, that would give someone else who IS proactive the chance to take the auction market away from them and become the premier on-line auction site.
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 Posted 04/07/2009  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list
Perhaps that's an idea who's time has come. ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/12/2009  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Just to let everyone know, the U.S. Secret Service not only protects our national leaders, they also track down and prosecute counterfeiters! I have reported a ebay seller who sold me a bogus 1922 No D Lincoln Cent. When I got it, it had very sharp edges and would balance on its edge. No coin from that time that was circulated would do that! And the color didn't match my other 1922 cents. (Not even close...). The Secret Service agent was very interested in this guy. And since I had his name and return address, it was particularly sweet for me!
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 Posted 04/12/2009  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
One additonal post on this subject: ebay may be bad on these counterfeiters (I do think they are trying...) but ePier.com is HORRIBLE! There are terrible counterfeiters all over that site and ePier will do nothing about them.
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 Posted 04/12/2009  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list

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Ebay has lost alot of business because of it's own actions, and will be losing alot more because of their lack of enforcing their own safety policies. If they aren't careful, they will become "just another online auction"

They have lost me. I am really trying hard not to sell there. I will still browse and if something looks like it's worth my time, I'll bid. If I ran ebay, these sellers would be history. No second chances.
If they sneak back in under some other name, they will slip up eventually.
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 Posted 04/13/2009  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list
It seems to me that in this day and age they could do a better job at blocking a seller than they do. The seller could also change his names and ISP but it seems that by cross referencing all the available information they have by computer to assure that a member that is banned, stays banned. I understand that someone who really wanted to get around things can, if determined enough. The simple fact is, ebay makes it easy. ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/16/2009  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Too all posters: Just curious, if ebay is not so good, what web site do any of you recommend? (Or do you buy all your coins in person?)
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 Posted 04/17/2009  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list
I personally buy on ebay simply because there are no local coin shops in my area. I buy carefully though and try not to jump into things before taking the time to check out the seller's past transactions and feedback. With all the recent fakes out there, it's getting difficult to tell exactly what is good and what is newly manufactured. The Chinese counterfeiting operation also produces a "circulated" version of their coins that get machine tumbled and chemically aged. ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/17/2009  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list
My answer as to where to obtain coins from.

1) Here on CCF (anyone can do so once they have 50 posts).
2) US Mint and Royal Mint.
3) ebay (only low value items).
4) Local shop which sells metal detectors.
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