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Scarcity And Pricing Of GSA Morgans

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 Posted 07/18/2022  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlyingTiger to your friends list
If lower grade 1885-CC Morgan's are expensive and priced not far under higher grades it makes no sense to buy one.
So there they sit,unpurchased!
I personally paid about $50 more dollars for a MS-64 instead of getting one in MS-63.Much higher they really start getting pricey.
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07/18/2022 12:42 pm
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 Posted 07/18/2022  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
It's the MS coins that are sitting around unpurchased. The scarcity (and popularity) of the low grades creates a sustainable floor price for the GSA MS coins, which is far too high for their huge population. The 1885-CC is the worst example, but all the other 1880's GSA coins have the same problem. They're slow movers. Contrast CC gold, which is truly scarce and has skyrocketed in value over the last 20 years I've watched it.

Right now Northern Nevada has 27 1885-CC Morgans, only one of which is circulated.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/18/2022 1:48 pm
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 Posted 07/18/2022  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
CC's have been my fastest sales. Whether UNC, VF, or VG, there is an incredible customer base that is very active.

People are asking prices that are above retail for GSA's, and those are the ones sitting around. If you had a reasonable priced GSA, you'd most likely be able to sell it in a heartbeat.

CC gold has a fast growing customer base, and those coins are definitely harder to find.
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 Posted 07/18/2022  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
The cc's I bought used to be collector coins. Now they're investment grade, especially the gold, and I can't afford them anymore.When there was only one VF-20 1882-CC half eagle and I bought it, nothing appeared immediately to replace it, and the next one that showed up was 50% higher in price. If you look at the low end cc gold on ebay right now, everything is details common dates. CC gold is not like the GSA Morgans, where there are plenty more available when one sells. I saw an MS65 1885-CC Morgan today for $700 OBO.

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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/18/2022 4:02 pm
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 Posted 07/18/2022  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlyingTiger to your friends list
Wow!$700 for MS-65 buy it now 1885-CC.
A month or two ago they were around the$1300.00 +++++range.Ones with a clean face could even be higher.
2 months ago I paid $1006.00 for a MS-64 and with tax and shipping almost $1100.00.
The most I ever paid for a coin.
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 Posted 07/18/2022  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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I saw an MS65 1885-CC Morgan today for $700 OBO.

I am still used to the $215 for common 82, 83, 84 GSA's and $450 for an 1885 CC GSA pre-covid. The price of those coins spiked, and I believe there is a slow, corrective trend that will bring GSA's back to a lower market price. Probably not what they used to be because of renewed collector interest, but certainly lower than $700.
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 Posted 07/18/2022  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I could swear I saw an MS65 for that in a ANACS holder earlier today, but this PCGS MS64 for $700 OBO could have been it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295095670509?LH_BIN=1

I remember when an AU 1891-CC $10 eagle sold for $350....the good old days.....
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/18/2022 7:20 pm
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 Posted 07/18/2022  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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I remember when an AU 1891-CC $10 eagle sold for $350....the good old days.....

I guess I missed out on the good old days. I probably wasn't even born yet.
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 Posted 07/19/2022  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list
My GSA 1882 was picked up from a dealer in the panhandle of N Florida in 2017. I was a Hurricane Irma evacuee at the time. I wandered into this older gentleman's shop because by the 10th day or so of being out, boredom starts to creep in. I traded some lower value type stuff for the CC, which has great luster for a 63/64 and a bold die clashed VAM, which is what primarily caught my eye. I the deal was ultimately two bored guys finding something to do. I think he'd been parked on those GSAs for a while and most anything seemed like it might sell quicker. I think we both were happy that day.

I've watched the market on these jump during the COVID. I'm struggling to grasp how demand has outpaced supply for these to the extent it has driving up prices because they aren't lacking for supply. The scarcity that $300+ can get me with most anything else makes it hard to give most Morgans 2 seconds of thought these days.
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07/19/2022 01:38 am
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 Posted 07/19/2022  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FlyingTiger to your friends list
After looking at that link to that $700.00 1885-CC for sale.Not being a Morgan expert but In my opinion after looking at 1000's of them online that is the fakest most fraudulent example of a Morgan dollar for sale I have ever seen.The seller has sold 2 coins since 2021.The feathers look fake,the letters look fake,the rim looks fake and the CC looks fake.
A real price still stands at the high $900's for a MS-63 and around a $1000+ for a MS-64.
Buyer Beware!!!
P.S.thq ,I'm reacting to the item for sale only,not any reflection on you what so ever.Your just another coin brother discussing Scarcity and pricing of GSA Morgan's.
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07/19/2022 03:17 am
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 Posted 07/19/2022  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Thanks for the heads up FlyingTiger. Not being a buyer, I just noticed his PCGS claim, though it seemed odd that the slab wasn't evident. Bad photos, bad coin, sneaky pricing, no returns. The extent that sellers go to push their fakes is disappointing.

The ANACS MS65 I saw was $1000, but was actually a mislabeled MS64, on collectorscorner.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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07/19/2022 10:39 am
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 Posted 07/19/2022  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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The scarcity that $300+ can get me with most anything else makes it hard to give most Morgans 2 seconds of thought these days.

I agree. For $300 you can get something older, rarer, and better looking than a common BU CC dollar. I like my bust halves, they are still affordable.
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 Posted 07/21/2022  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list

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I agree. For $300 you can get something older, rarer, and better looking than a common BU CC dollar. I like my bust halves, they are still affordable.


Exactly! Wander $300-500 in a coin show and its amazing how much fun one can have if they don't blow it on a GSA Morgan at the first of 2 dozen tables trying to move them along. Bust halves are always fun!
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 Posted 07/21/2022  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
I'm working on a Dansco album set of Morgans with a target grade of G-VG/F. The surprising stumbling blocks of the issues commonly found in MS condition are 1882-S and 1897-P and 1898-P.
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I'm working on a Dansco album set of Morgans with a target grade of G-VG/F. The surprising stumbling blocks of the issues commonly found in MS condition are 1882-S and 1897-P and 1898-P.


Hoping not to hijack, sorry if I do. found this in a Ft Myers shop's scrap Morgan bin about 4 years ago. I had just secured a new work position, so I popped I to the shop to celebrate for a couple bucks. I appreciated the well worn reverse heading towards lowball territory at the time.

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And now back to our regularly scheduled GSA CC programming.
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