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1808/7 O-101 Capped Bust Half Dollar For Grading

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 Posted 07/20/2022  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
What a neat and original coin! I'll go with XF-40. There seems to be a decent bit of wear on the hair and feathers though, so I wouldn't be shocked if they graded it at VF-35.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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There seems to be a decent bit of wear on the hair and feathers though

The majority of these flat spots are attributed to strike. This coin exhibits even wear on all devices and fields. A lot of 1808's I see have little to no feather detail in the eagle's head and wings.

This example is a fantastic long term hold. A two year type and the only overdate for type. Thanks for the edge pictures.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
The chest drapery and hair detail tells me EF-40. Great eye appeal on this one.
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 Posted 07/20/2022  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
New pics are perfect. Thx for adding them!
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 Posted 07/21/2022  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
EF-40/45
Would you happen to have a pic of before the soak...courious...?
Great pick up!
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 Posted 07/21/2022  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
VF-35 for me!!

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 Posted 07/21/2022  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
the stars still have their center points on them and the date is quite sharp as well as the detail on the top of the cap and lower hair. definitely a weak obv strike. the reverse letters are quite sharp as well as the leaves and the 50C. to me the coin is sharper than XF. there appears to be some residual yellow gunk still visible the left wing to the head and a few rim bumps on the reverse

personally I think its in the AU50 range but I think it would grade XF45
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 Posted 07/21/2022  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
@jacrispies and whoever else is willing to lend some help, I'm relatively new to grading some of these early bust coins, specifically in higher grades. With that said, how do you tell the difference between apparent "wear" that is attributable to strike vs. actual wear from circulation? For instance, I just looked today at this 1827 Capped Bust half dollar on ebay today (https://www.ebay.com/itm/3045703764..._Auction=1), and I was unsure of how to grade it, based on what looked like some flatness in the eagle wingtips. What sort of grade might you assign to this coin? Thank you all for your help, as I'd love to learn more about grading these early bust halves!
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 Posted 07/21/2022  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
CoinEnthusiast- no worries, happy to help. Your best bet is to start your own topic so it can get the proper attention.

That 1827 half dollar has a very good strike, which is usual for the halves dated 1827. I see very slight wear across the devices, and a possible cleaning. I would say AU-55 details.
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how do you tell the difference between apparent "wear" that is attributable to strike vs. actual wear from circulation?


this series is one where it takes a lot of grading skills to determine strike vs wear and is not a series imo that a novice should jump into until they are fairly proficient in grading them

that being said, one of the best ways is to look at the highest devices on the coin as they are the least recessed in the die and should be better struck up. when I look at these I almost always ignore the flat spots and just look at the high devices. Stars, top of cap, date & lower hair on the obv and leaves, shield, denomination and lettering of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

look at those areas on this coin and go back and regrade it. pretty much ignore everything else. its a good starting point on grading these.
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 Posted 07/23/2022  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list
A wonderful find! I'd buy as a 40 but want to sell it as a 45. It is probably closer to a 45.
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 Posted 07/23/2022  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
Thank you both for explaining a little bit of what goes into grading these beauties. As I'm still learning, I'll probably rely on this board for some advice on grading bust halves as they get into the XF or higher range. Again, thank you!
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 Posted 03/06/2023  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
PCGS graded this VF35.
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 Posted 03/08/2023  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list
Here is the Trueview

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 Posted 03/08/2023  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Can't argue with 35. Either way, a sharp coin.
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