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 Posted 08/30/2022  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
that or lots of grease, neat looking coin
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 Posted 08/30/2022  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list
I'm thinking it's a Greaser also. Very cool looking coin. Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 08/30/2022  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Agree with all above.
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 Posted 08/30/2022  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
to the CCF I don't think it's a Greaser, with John1
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 Posted 08/30/2022  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Dig deeper. First look at the rims? Are they normal? Yes or no? On a Struck Through Grease issue, the rims will be normal:
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Do the rims look like this coin? No. So the issue is not a Struck Through Grease issue. Also the reverse rim is normal, jug the obverse is affected. So this is not a Struck Through Grease issue.
Note the mention of a struck through a capped die? What happens on a coin with the strike of a capped die? The rims look more like a saucer. Thus they are not protecting the devices and design.
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Saucer like:
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Note this on this coin. So it is not a Struck Through Grease, but a struck through a capped die. Why? Rims that are not formed normally. Train the eyes to see what is there. Also note what is not there. Thus you can as a detective, rule out what is could be, and what is really is. Giving answers should have a basis. So when helping with an answer, helping a student to see what you are seeing is important? Why? Because he will learn the process of what is there, and what isn't there. That is how new posters learn more. So they can see what we see on a coin. How we determine what we are seeing, then explaining why we come to that conclusion. Then they will see what we see on their coin.

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 Posted 08/30/2022  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I yield to Dr. coop as always.



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 Posted 08/30/2022  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MakesNoCentsToMe to your friends list
Sweet find IT. Good eye!
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 Posted 08/30/2022  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
Definitely a struck through die cap issue, John got it right. Very nice find!
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 Posted 08/30/2022  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ITNerd to your friends list
Thanks everyone. Y'all are great. Very educational for someone like me who doesn't know much about this stuff. Appreciate you!
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 Posted 08/30/2022  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
to the CCF!!! Nice find...keep hunting.

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 Posted 08/31/2022  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
This is a difficult one to sort out.
I see signs of it being either one but feel Coop is correct about this being a Struck Through Grease error.
The "waves" don't resemble folds from a capped die in this late stage.
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 Posted 08/31/2022  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Now that a new subject is brought up, lets add more:
Flattening (thinning) die caps:
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Deteriorating die caps:
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Uniface die caps:
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Rotating die caps:
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Disintegrating die caps:
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Generic Die cap:
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Brockage die cap:
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Early stage capped die:
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Other die caps:
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Errors are a one at a time issue often, other times they are repeated as the die is still capped. So different die cap events happen as the machine has a covered capped die. Thus the different types examples are created.
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 Posted 08/31/2022  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Coop,
Is ITNerd coin a Struck Through Grease or a capped die?
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 Posted 08/31/2022  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
More of an aging die cap that is deteriorating, thus filling/preventing the devices on the die, so that nothing can rise on the struck coin. Note how this happens on the extra images I just posted. As mentioned earlier, there would be a rim on a Struck Through Grease, The cap prevents the rim to form, because it is covering the gutter on the die. The more the die cap deteriorates, the more of the rim/devices/design will eventually be seen again on the coins struck with that covered die.
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