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1 Yuan - Guangxu - Fake?

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 Posted 11/02/2022  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Where/from whom did you get it? With these coins that makes a huge difference.
Compare the dragon's face on the coin you have with an authentic coin. The difference is quite stark with the details being a little too primitive compared to an authentic one.
With a circulated coin you'd also expect some wear to the face of the dragon.
To me, it does not look authentic.
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 Posted 11/02/2022  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
I have found that, very often, "the camera doesn't lie" when it comes to the colour of doubtful Chinese dollars. They may look silvery in hand, but they often show a greenish or yellowish tint on the camera. As this coin does.

That, plus the general wrong-ness of the appearance, indicates it is a replica.
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 Posted 11/03/2022  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
A number of my fakes look greenish & grayish. Many others sort of dirty ash browns, grays & more.
Not so many yellowish.
Many variables affect color, so much so, color is one aspect I've struggled with for quite a while.
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 Posted 11/03/2022  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave-db to your friends list
The source of the coin is unknown, it is from a heritage. Which indicates for me this could be a counterfeit, I have four of them. All look a bit different and weight is also different.

Weight: 26.74, 26.76, 26.83 and 26.86 grams


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 Posted 11/03/2022  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list
It looks real to me.
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The source of the coin is unknown

I'd be very careful at this point. The three other coins do not look right. They don't look like silver to me and I agree with the other comments about the color and toning patterns. If the weight is correct, you also want to check the diameter and the thickness to make sure they check out as well.
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 Posted 11/03/2022  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
I checked the given measures and found them to be reasonable.
There are documented variations for the OP's piece.
The posted photo above of the four coins sort of prompts me to dig into mine and maybe post pictures & measures.

edit: I did dig up six of these, not sure if there's interest in my measures or pictures?
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11/04/2022 04:56 am
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I did dig up six of these, not sure if there's interest in my measures or pictures?

I'd be curious.
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 Posted 11/05/2022  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
It will take a while so please be patient, here is the first.
17.62g, 39.26mm by 2.1mm
Obviously low weight for this one.
1-Yuan---Guangxu---Fake?

This the second.
18.29g, 39.1mm by 2.1mm
Another obviously low weight
1-Yuan---Guangxu---Fake?
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11/05/2022 4:47 pm
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 Posted 11/05/2022  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Cool-good to look at. The more I see of these the more I compare to verified authentic examples and learn to spot differences. Buying these imperials coins is a minefield.
Can I ask where you got these?
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 Posted 11/05/2022  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Here are 3,4 and 5. All far below weight.
The sixth coin is a different (23rd) year
Left is 19.42g, 39.1mm by 2.35mm
Center is 19.68g, 39.1mm by 2.5mm with something not right.
A member will see it quickly and say what it is.
Right is 19.67g, 39mm by 2.4mm
1-Yuan---Guangxu---Fake?
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11/06/2022 12:02 am
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 Posted 11/13/2022  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list

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A member will see it quickly and say what it is.

Is it the province name?
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 Posted 11/13/2022  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list
Right- Manchurian Provinces & Pei Yang don't belong together.
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11/13/2022 7:54 pm
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Can I ask where you got these?

I think these may have come from Hong Kong.
I remember a dealer gave them to me in Chicago calling them "knock-offs".
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 Posted 11/16/2022  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list

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"knock-offs"

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