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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Cointree and DBM. I'm thinking different years different dies different rotation. The similarities alone are interesting if not almost identical. Meaning that this is a DDR. Although I'm new at this think about the 2018 2019 2020 quarter ddos. All have a different rotation. Could be something or nothing |
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Thanks silviosi. If this needs to be debunked then there are many more where the doubling is the same. Instead of debunking they need to be accepted as true doubled dies. Maybe collectors need to upgrade our thinking as to what is an actual doubled die per vv. I don't know. Could go either way
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Pillar of the Community
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As for the 74 D listing look at the devices. Seems to be no reduction in the devices themselves. I don't know you tell me
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If this needs to be debunked then there are many more where the doubling is the same. Instead of debunking they need to be accepted as true doubled dies. Maybe collectors need to upgrade our thinking as to what is an actual doubled die per vv. I don't know. Could go either way After you study and read this article, please comeback to me with your conclusion. Why we can change the vision for what is just a new vision because some ebay sellers or some errors which occur on a site like VV. Personally I do not agree with many of the posts on VV. http://conecaonline.org/wp-content/...gFlyer-1.pdf |
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks MD to me, IMHO. However, is it possible for the word "half" devices moved North, but "dollar" devices moved East, a true possibility during the strike?
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I see slight device reducing on the OP coin and not on VV's Also, the A in Dollar has it on both sided..  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Machine Doubling is so common on Kennedy reverses that it must first be ruled out
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks all. It looked like md but I had to ask because it didn't look normal. I thought something else may be occurring. I guess not
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Bedrock of the Community
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Machine Doubling happens on doubled dies as well. On proof coins Machine Doubling can affect the first strike and during the second strike of the proof coin, the first Machine Doubling can be flattened and it makes the fields look strange. But it is flat field doubling:  Note the fields on this coin? That flat field doubling is not part of the doubled, just as on this coin the Machine Doubling is not part of the doubled die. The Machine Doubling happened after the strike. (Just like normal and Doubled dies can be altered) But Machine Doubling is not a doubled die. On the doubled areas on the die, strike doubled die coins. A doubled die and a normal die are hub the hub processes. Machine Doubling is a post strike issue, and has nothing to do with dies. Machine Doubling damages the coin coming up post strike. Not part of the doubled die/normal die. Machine issue, not a die issue. CoopHome: What is the difference between a doubled die and Machine Doubling? Machine Doubling is part of the striking of the machine. a doubled die is created on the die. thus the Machine Doubling is never a doubled die, as the doubling is on the die, not created by the machine.
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First of all, I see no evidence of a DDR in any of your photos of the 73D. The 74D DDR-001 is not a good example to use for justifying your 73D as a DDR. The 74D DDR-001 that James Wiles used on Variety Vista is a very good example of a DDR and MDD on the same half dollar, read his description of the 74D DDO-001. Attached is a good photo of the 74 DDR in my collection, note the notching on the ER of AMERICA and stars under.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I agree that we can have MD and DDO or DDR. On Atrox example I see also doubling on the letters on right side and in the left MD. The stars are obviously hub doubling. Thanks COOP to mention this because the post was pass without this mention which it is very important on recognize the doubling in the halves stars. Edited by silviosi
02/02/2023 1:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks again everyone for your insight. I'm no doubled die expert that's why I wanted to see what others here thought. Being from the previous year and same mint I thought there may be a chance these were identical. I do see the flat field doubling and with it going this way and that way I was thinking maybe there's some rotation going on. I'm not seeing the notching as with most Kennedy halves but it may or may not be there. Using what I've learned doesn't always apply. Fundamentally when you see something listed on VV then that's what to look for. Looks like I've made another rookie mistake but it's another lesson learned. Thanks for the info |
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks silviosi. I did check out dd first thinking what I was looking at was probably on the minor side but couldn't find the ddrs so I went on vv and saw what I thought at the time was a comparable 74 D. I've never looked at a Kennedy doubled die in hand so I don't know if the notching is visible without a scope
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