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Bedrock of the Community
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Pics please!  to the CCF! |
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In Panzaldi's pictured example, I'd take the VG10 over the F12 all day long!
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The PCGS pics don't help. Very little difference.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Disagree, very distinct differences.  to the CCF! |
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Coinfrog, please describe.
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The only difference I see is the detail in the cotton ball.
Other opinions welcome.
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to the Community. |
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the VG10 is much more flat than the F12 . especially on the obv the F12 devices are much sharper as well as the lettering. much more wear on the eagle wings and breast on the VG10. remember that the PCGS photos are just typical representations of that grade. they should be used only to get into a general category. once must use their experience and the overall look of the coin to determine the grade. for instance. if you use photograde to grade a series like Buffalo nickels you probably will be way off. this is where experience and years of research and grading come into play |
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The VG10 is much more flat than the F12 . especially on the obv the F12 devices are much sharper as well as the lettering. much more wear on the eagle wings and breast on the VG10. Well said panzaldi! To us the difference is obvious but, it's taken us years to spot the differences. It's also a matter of knowing what to look for. There are some great sites and books on coins that can help with research and finding out what specifics to look for. "The Contrarian", you can start by looking for wear and then look at the design to see it's strength. I usually start with the "Liberty". If I can see it clearly then I go from there. It's just a start. On the pics from panzaldi, you can look at the wear on each coin. One thing that should jump right out at you is the lack of design on the wings (wear). Looking through "Photograde" for coins is good for beginners. Last but, definitely not the least. Check the dates on these two coins. It's pretty easy to understand why "westernsky" prefers the VG10! Edited by dsking
04/09/2023 12:36 pm
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The VG10 has much better eye appeal TO ME! We are talking about grades on these coins, not dates!
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The VG10 has much better eye appeal Completely agree with that |
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Different things happen at different wear levels on the Morgan dollar. When you start getting down to VG versus F, the first place I go is the cotton bolls. If detail is still seen there, I usually default to F grades. I have seen graded coins that don't follow this logic, though. Every coin can degrade differently. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae
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i find the lower grades between F and XF to be more difficult to narrow down than those in MS. for me I think thats pretty much true for most series. I always need to use photograde to put them into a major grade category like VG, F, VF etc. then to narrow it down say between F12 and F15 it takes a more discerning eye and experience and looking at the entire coin not just one grading marker. new collectors typically make the error in grading by looking at only one component. for example only grading by the horn of buff Nickle.
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The VG10 has much better eye appeal TO ME! We are talking about grades on these coins, not dates! Sorry, did not mean to offend you. Ofcourse, we are talking grades but, at the very least the scarcity of the coin will eventually play a part in variety, potential errors, and values. And yes, eye appeal plays an important part as well in grading. I was bad to assume...so sorry. Edited by dsking
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