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1893 Morgan PCGS Vs CCF

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 Posted 02/18/2023  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Slider23 - Realizing that my photos aren't the greatest. How did you come to your AU50 conclusion? Just curious.
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 Posted 02/19/2023  06:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
I'm trying to contribute - but those photos are just too small out of focus and dark for anything other than guesswork.
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 Posted 02/19/2023  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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Realizing that my photos aren't the greatest. How did you come to your AU50 conclusion? Just curious.


Full luster only in the protected areas and no feathers showing on eagle's breast.
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 Posted 02/19/2023  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
I agree with Coinfrog.
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 Posted 02/19/2023  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Thanks everyone..this coin was a gift so I'll keep her!

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 Posted 02/19/2023  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Seems conservative with all that luster.
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 Posted 02/19/2023  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I think it's a bit undergraded. A beautiful coin for a gift, too!
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 Posted 02/20/2023  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Nice coin, I was going to say AU-53 cleaned likely dipped.


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Also, it has not been cleaned.

How do you know? Did you follow this coin it's entire life?
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 Posted 02/20/2023  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
really tough to see the surfaces to assess it. photos too small and shadowing hiding the surfaces. from what I see there are significant amount of the fine lines/scratches on both sides. eagle breast is quite flat but some could be attributed to strike as the 93(P) can be a little weak. lighting is enhancing the remaining luster. I would have graded it AU53 but with the number of marks on the coin I'm betting thats why PCGS lowered it
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 Posted 03/01/2023  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
Looks like it was net graded to me.
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 Posted 03/02/2023  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Agree that this dollar grades no higher than AU-50. The obverse photo shows luster around star #5 and directly across the coin at UM of UNUM. That is all that remains of the luster band that would have been complete on an uncirculated coin.

The old standard for an AU-50 grade was that 50% of the original luster remains. This coin appears to have lost well over half its original luster.
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The old standard for an AU-50 grade was that 50% of the original luster remains.

Interesting, I never heard this standard. Nowadays 50% luster is at minimum AU-53.
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It looks over-dipped in the images. Completely void dirt, crust, toning or anything else that happens to 130 year-old circulated silver coins. AU50 sounds fair.
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 Posted 03/03/2023  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Thanks everyone for your contributions! I'm still working on photos.

No I have not followed this coin it's entire life...I'm not that old! In hand there are no indications of cleaning, dipping, and so forth.

I might send it forward again to see what it comes back as now.
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dsking my question is why would you resub it? it may upgrade to 53 but there is only about $100 retail difference. the chance it pulls a 55 is pretty slim. I guess its roll of the dice and if you already have a subscription to submit under to reduce the costs
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