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1907 Indian Head Gold Eagle 10 Dollar Coin No Motto Real?

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 Posted 05/17/2023  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Absolutely right, I come here regularly to waste time!
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 Posted 05/17/2023  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I interpreted @MisterT as calling out the pawn shop and/or jeweler, based on a misconstrued "100% gold", not you, but regardless the coin is clearly fake. Taking the pawn shop's $1k offer presents a moral dilemma. Some of these counterfeits are real gold, made to evade the 1933 ban on owning gold, but are much higher quality. Given the weight, I suspect gold plating is fooling their XRF, but I don't know how thick the plating would have to be.
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 Posted 05/17/2023  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Indeed I was calling out the jeweler and pawn shop as BS. Sorry if you interpreted it the wrong way.
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 Posted 05/18/2023  09:00 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Composition: Gold
Fineness: 0.9
Weight: 16.72g
AGW: 0.484oz
Melt Value: $952.97 (5/18/2023)
Diameter: 27mm
Edge: 46 Raised Stars

This was easily gathered info available at
NGC Coin website. A great way to improve your knowledge base if you are really interested in numismatics!

I am betting this particular piece was probably counterfeited in the last year or so.
Sure getting tired of seeing this stuff everywhere.
Also to knowingly utter a counterfeit good (in this case a coin) for resale is a felony .
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 Posted 05/18/2023  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Good stuff, thanks.
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 Posted 05/18/2023  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The subject Eagle of this thread
is not pretty;
is not ugly.
It's just pretty ugly.

(Apologies for adapted quote from W,C, Fields - 1930's actor and comedian)
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 Posted 05/18/2023  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list

Quote:
Also to knowingly utter a counterfeit good (in this case a coin) for resale is a felony
That's an interesting question. A bunch of anonymous internet people saying it's fake probably wouldn't hold up in court, as far as evidence of knowingly intending to defraud. The pawn shop says it's gold and makes an offer. Is the seller supposed to question that? As I said, it's a moral/ethical dilemma, but probably wouldn't succeed as a criminal case.
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BAD EXAMPLE
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When new to collecting, I depended on the " Red Book" for many details ... including type coin weights. As the veterans on this site have always shared ... education, education, education. Best of Luck and Welcome to CCF - Best, Tiny
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 Posted 08/04/2023  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
The weight of it, plus the pawnshop's assertion that it is gold, reminds me of these lyrics:
"Now I don't know but I been told
it's hard to run with the weight of gold
Other hand I heard it said
it's just as hard with the weight of lead."
Grateful Dead, "New Speedway Boogie"
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 08/04/2023  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
No.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 08/05/2023  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list
Wonder if this sensitive gentleman received $1k for the fake
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 Posted 08/05/2023  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
They haven't returned since the day this was posted. Seems to be a common outcome.
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