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 Posted 05/18/2023  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Hoping I'm getting a little better at getting good pictures, but it seems to vary from coin to coin.
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 Posted 05/18/2023  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
This is an odd coin.

Sharpness is easily AU58, but the luster isn't there except traces in the legends, which is more associated with XF45-AU50 range coins.

My grade AU58, possibly cleaned based on last reverse photo - in particular, retoning over an old cleaning, perhaps.

I would like to see this coin after a bath in Classic Coin Conditioner / Blue Ribbon, to see what's underneath the surface.

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 Posted 05/18/2023  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
OK, not the greatest pix, but shows better some of the remaining luster. Not knowing anything about cleaning, I tend to just leave things alone. Perhaps I'm too conservative.
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 Posted 05/18/2023  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Those new photos make me much more certain that it's got an old cleaning.

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 Posted 05/19/2023  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU details (cleaned)
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 Posted 05/19/2023  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Stickinig with AU-58 straight.
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 Posted 05/19/2023  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
I'll concur with AU-58. Nice coin!
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 Posted 05/19/2023  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Hope the AU58 straight group is right - paid XF45 money for it. Thanks for the opinions.
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 Posted 05/19/2023  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I went back and looked at this today and think I won't pass any sort of opinion on the surfaces because I kind of agree it could be straight graded.

I think it would benefit from a soak in acetone or conditioner, though, that might help a bit :)
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 Posted 05/19/2023  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
Man, you guys make me nervous talking about acetone soaks. I've never tried to clean a coin before and I'm darned wary about it. I have some acetone (not nail polish remover, but acetone from a paint store), Just not sure exactly how you do this. I assume you put some in a glass of some sort and place the coin in, but for how long? Some say rinse with water and air dry, some say rinse with clean acetone and gently pat dry. What's the suggested way to do this? I like this coin and I don't want to screw it up by improper technique.
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 Posted 05/19/2023  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list
The apparent lack of luster has me at AU-55.
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 Posted 04/09/2025  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blastenpene4 to your friends list
UPDATE: Just got this one back from NGC. Paid high XF money for it, but less than AU.
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 Posted 04/09/2025  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Congratulations on the grade!
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 Posted 04/10/2025  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list

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Man, you guys make me nervous talking about acetone soaks. I've never tried to clean a coin before and I'm darned wary about it

You have a good eye and you figured (acetone) it out...
Nice!
Happy for "your" results!
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