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1859 Canadian Large Cent , Errors ? 4.30g

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 Posted 06/16/2023  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewCollector11 to your friends list
Can someone help identify this ? I've been trying to match for hours now and just lost completely going through the pictures can't seem to find exact one , here's some better shots , thank you ! I watched the YouTube video too just can't find my exact fonts and die breaks that match...I find some things that match and the can't seem to get past the obverse .
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1859-Canadian-Large-Cent-,-Errors-?-4.30g
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 Posted 06/16/2023  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewCollector11 to your friends list
Here's a shot of the G . Small split
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 Posted 06/17/2023  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list
Back up there newcollector. Did you not read Phil 310's reponse ? He gave you the information you are asking again, and put two links which show your die pairs and what makes it that number. All your errors and info for your coin is on those two links.

When looking up a # on the vickycents site, the easiest starting point is by die cracks. Your coin reverse has a crack at leaf 7 (starting at the top and counting clockwise). Click on ID my coin, then reverse markers. On the image that comes up, click leaf 7 then look for the image that exactly matches yours and click on it. On that page, check leaf 9 to see if it matches yours. At the top of the page it will tell you what obverses to check to find the pair.
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06/17/2023 02:06 am
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 Posted 06/17/2023  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewCollector11 to your friends list
I tried that. And yes I saw his response but realized it wasn't it because of that leaf 7 with the die crack..is Rev G1 , but I'm having difficulty matching the obverse, none of those pairs listed that I can see pair up with the G1 reverse . That's I asked for help.
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 Posted 06/17/2023  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
I don't think G1. If you can't find your coin using D/C's (sometimes you have to just look at the chart that says there's a crack there in a certain die state), since there's not a photo of every crack, then try to ID from the Obverse initially. You have some nice repunched letters in Gratia and maybe Regina. Phil, above, gave you good info.
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 Posted 06/17/2023  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
Although the die crack at leaf 7 looks like the one on the G1 reverse, your coin is not reverse G1. It is Reverse E33 which has an almost identical die crack at leaf 7. I noticed that under the listing of die cracks at leaf 7, the catalog does not show a photo of reverse E33. That is an oversight which we will correct.

Given that two different reverses can have very similar die cracks, you can not use a single marker. You have to take the coin as a whole and look at every marker on both sides to attribute it. For instance, all G group reverses will have a gap in the vine above loop 2. Your coin does not show that gap. Always look at the stem to leaf 9. The stem on your coin matches E33, but not G1.

It takes a while to get used to all the markers to look for when attributing 1859's and I admit it can be a little difficult at first, but don't give up. You'll get more familiar with them in time. Learning the differences in the reverse groups will help a lot.
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 Posted 06/17/2023  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewCollector11 to your friends list
Thank you guys again for responding. Starting to understand it , first time ever trying to disect a 1859 large cent .. and definitely the toughest I've had trying to identify a coin lol. I think your spot on now that I'm seeing what to look for . E33 leaf 7 state 3 matches pretty darn close . I didn't see that within the pairing theres different states. The last image for reverse 33 in state 3 matches almost perfect. loop 2 also looks identical . Sorry you got it spot on . Thanks again for helping me understand !! Your a legend. One thing is,, yea its 33+32 so is mine a E33-3 ? I circled below in the pics
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 Posted 06/17/2023  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list
It's good to remember with the1859s, that there are still some undiscovered die pairs. If you do happen to find one that does not match anything yet on "vickycents.com" you could get credit for discovering a new die pair.
It is a very addictive nitch of coin collecting.
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 Posted 06/17/2023  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list
Nybird, I'm sorry, I restrain myself 99.9% of the time and let it go, but have to do it this time. Niche. It's borrowed from French and sounds like neesh.
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06/18/2023 12:58 am
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 Posted 06/18/2023  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add viper to your friends list
nybird
welcome back to the 1859 club. It's been a long time!

MG
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 Posted 06/18/2023  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fourmack to your friends list
nybird

A big Welcome Back
As Viper said it has been a long time and we are all still here,
Cheers Don

Vickies cents and GB Farthings nut.
"Old" is a figure of speech and nothing more
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 Posted 06/18/2023  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Ditto to the last 2 posters. How's Utah? And I know you a frequent looker, but few posts. All the best!
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 Posted 06/18/2023  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list
Hello to all, yes I read this forum everyday. We are in Nevada Reno area. Sold all my American coins and some Canadian but kept all my Vickys. still hoping to get back to them soon. Surprisingly there seem to be some unsearched coin shops out west especially in parts of CA.
Looking forward to some productive cherry picking. I do miss some of my NJ sources, one yielded 4 1884 rare cents..
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 Posted 06/18/2023  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list
TerryT thanks for the correction spelling has always been a weakness. Just not my nitch.rather niche #128579;
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 Posted 06/19/2023  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list

Quote:
nybird
welcome back to the 1859 club. It's been a long time!


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