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2020 P Lincoln Shield Cent With Crazy Abrasions!

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 Posted 06/23/2023  07:58 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Thanks for checking this guy out, everybody!

I was already surprised with what was going on with this coin but am now very perplexed with Silvio's statement. I was not aware that they did not abrade/polish dies after 2003 but after scouring different sites and even coins, I cannot find any examples, I guess I had just never paid attention to this before....

So, Sil, to John1's question, what do you think?
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 Posted 06/23/2023  08:39 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Found a couple of listed varieties with die scratches but they are very limited.

LINK http://varietyvista.com/01e%20LC%20...6PDDO001.htm

LINK https://coppercoins.com/lincoln/die...ie_state=mds
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 Posted 06/23/2023  11:35 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
What the heck happened to the B in Liberty? If that die wasn't polished, then it endured some serious deterioration!
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 Posted 06/23/2023  11:40 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Actually, on closer inspection, that is some serious push doubling, "die movement doubling", or maybe that class IX/VIII stuff. Look at the letters in Liberty, the N of In, the W of We. Or it could be DDD, it's hard to see the shape outlines around the letters at this level of zoom.

I don't know what would cause that, though. The direction of the ghosts on Liberty is different from the direction of In and We.
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I knew I read about the die polishing being almost non-existent on modern dies. It was another tread Siliosi replied to

Any chance this could be an improperly and lightly hubbed die?

Could those have been on the bar stock and then never removed during the hubbing?
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 Posted 06/23/2023  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Petespockets55 I think bring a very logic explanation. Me I think also as the planchet scratch before striking. What is inconsistent we see different directions of those scratches.
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Actually, on closer inspection, that is some serious push doubling, "die movement doubling", or maybe that class IX/VIII stuff. Look at the letters in Liberty, the N of In, the W of We. Or it could be DDD, it's hard to see the shape outlines around the letters at this level of zoom.

I don't know what would cause that, though. The direction of the ghosts on Liberty is different from the direction of In and We.


Here ya go, Brandmeister. I think the lighting was lending to what you were seeing. There may be a little notching on LIBERTY but very minor, if any. I think polishing may be the majority of what is giving the devices a distorted look. The nexus of the N is a good place to look though.

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 Posted 06/23/2023  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Good possibility, Petespockets55. Thanks for the input! Not for sure exactly what caused this, had just never seen such a thing on a shield.
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 Posted 06/23/2023  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Thanks for all of the replies, everyone!
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 Posted 06/23/2023  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list

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Here ya go, Brandmeister. I think the lighting was lending to what you were seeing.

Yup, that's what it was! Thanks for taking the newer pic so I could see that clearly.
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 Posted 06/23/2023  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
It is a big keeper this coin. MAKE another brick on your wall.
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 Posted 06/23/2023  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Nice, Sil! I think we may have similar taste in music. Classic rock is my go to but I mix it up a bit.
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 Posted 06/23/2023  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list
Very interesting. "Hard to explain this one is".
With no polishing after 2003.

I also agree about Pink Floyd.
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 Posted 06/23/2023  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Deep Purple and Pink Floyd will be never ever be reach Near them I will put Emmerson, Like and Palmer. They perform on 4 to 5 instruments, no mixing nothing and sound as the most moderns studios. Those are the groups I like to hear all the time.

The same in our coins we had Herb, Stanton, Potter, Wex, Dr. Sepp, Favas and many others, with no electronic microscope just an 5 to 10x magnifier and we have the best result. I am sorry not to venerate all.
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