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Sacagawea Dollar Out Of Tolerance By 2 Grams Different Planchet Maybe?

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 Posted 07/19/2023  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Well, I am presenting an alternate hypothesis to test. At this point thin planchet also makes sense, and there are other possibilities (like acid damage) beyond those two. I'm not sure how you'd verify the missing clad layer possibility without metal testing. We would have to devise a test that could conclude thin planchet vs. missing clad layer.

Unfortunately, none of the examples I located via Google had listed a mass. A few of them did appear to have weak strikes. Sullivan has a coin currently for sale, so you could ask them to weigh it.
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 Posted 07/19/2023  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Also a PCGS article by Jon Sullivan about clad coins missing layers:

https://www.PCGS.com/news/missing-c...-error-coins
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 Posted 07/19/2023  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stevelee83 to your friends list
That was a good read thanks for the info Brandmeister I understand that process a lot better now
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 Posted 07/19/2023  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Well, here ya go. A Heritage Auction for a Sacagawea dollar coin missing a clad layer. 6.0 grams, just like yours. Graded and slabbed by NGC, certification 194983-007 MS67.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/200...a/434-2785.s

Also an article on Presidential dollar coin errors that discusses a missing clad golden dollar. It talks briefly about the weak strike, especially around the rim.

https://www.ngccoin.com/news/articl...Dollar-Coin/

And another for Washington presidential quarters that includes an edge view of the missing clad coin.

https://www.ngccoin.com/news/articl...ollar-Coins/
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 Posted 07/19/2023  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Obverse missing clad, NGC slabbed at HA:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/200...ption-071515
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 Posted 07/20/2023  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stevelee83 to your friends list
Tried to get a better pic so you can see the copper better
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 Posted 07/20/2023  08:59 am  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Wow, that picture really shows the difference. You've got a pretty cool coin there!
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 Posted 07/20/2023  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JonS to your friends list
This is indeed a missing clad layer. It has the obverse clad layer missing, which is why the coin is "coppery" colored on that side. It's worth around $400 retail.
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 Posted 07/20/2023  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stevelee83 to your friends list
That is awesome thanks everyone
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 Posted 07/20/2023  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Thanks for taking the time to advise us, Jon! =)
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 Posted 07/20/2023  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stevelee83 to your friends list
Brandmeister what steps do I take now? Do I get it certified I've never done that before
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 Posted 07/20/2023  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list
This one looks like a job for Mike Diamond
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 Posted 07/20/2023  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Steve, grading and liquidation are way outside my wheelhouse.

The guy I would ask is Jon Sullivan, who literally wrote the PCGS article on missing-clad coins, and who just took the time to verify what you've got. He was also kind enough to answer my initial questions via email yesterday. He runs a mint error specialty business:

https://sullivannumismatics.com/sell/

If PCGS trusts his expertise in this subject, there's not much else to say. =)
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 Posted 07/20/2023  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stevelee83 to your friends list
Thanks for the help Brandmeister I emailed him we shall see what he says
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 Posted 07/21/2023  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

Quote:
The guy I would ask is Jon Sullivan...
I am pretty sure he has already given an opinion on it.
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