1964 D Cent Vista DDR-011

ya know, Jon is correct, your MM is closer to the 9 than the one on VV. so probably not DDR-011

Jon, I did consider that this was all MD, but most of it is almost level with the devices. The big spot I see strong MD in on the O of 'ONE'

I see nothing in the MM that would change my mind. I've looked at several websites that stated only one Mint had a mint marker and that was Denver. The sites also stated that the mint mark was hand punched until 1989 and that may be the reason the MM "appears" to be different that the Vista site might show. Actually. I Don't see the Dorrance, but I am not an expert

Here you go, jfeed, this is what I'm talking about. Yours is more upright, higher and more westerly. Hope this helps.

They were and this is what makes each die, that was hand punched by the mint mark punch, unique.

JFeed, No "Now I feel very stupid" wrong thinking.

The DDR come from the working hub who strike the working dies. The MM in that time was punch manually and can have different orientation or placement. The examples on VV or Wex are the coins they has to analyze. Not more not less.

But if the working Hub who produce the die do many Dies? we can have same DDR but different MM positions and orientations.

Me I still stand for DDR with MD and not the 011, another. JF, I have same DDO or DDR in Quarters and are same but come from different Dies with complete others markers. So for me MAKE show very nice diff of 011 and your coin but never pronounce on the DDR.

PS JF: The MM was on Hammer not anvil. The DDR is DD's on Anvil. Conclusion: Who can say that, in that time, the Hammer was not change and so we have same DDR but with different Hammers.

You should not feel stupid, you just need to understand. First, do you understand that the hand punched mm is in each die, not each coin? A die makes hundreds of thousands coins and a hand punched mm in that particular die makes the same. This being said, that die and mm placement on that die is unique, kind of like a fingerprint.

If you will look back at my posts, you will see that I have worked extremely hard to understand the terminology,etc. There doesn't seem to be any consistency when various variaties/errors or whatever are presented. Actually..at this time and point, I don't know if this coin is a keeper or a shim for a loose door. Silvo,,,,you have always been supportive and I appreciate it. Maybe if this coin why submitted by another prominent member, it would get a different analysis.

Could other members please point out the areas you feel have true doubling? I'm not seeing anything but MD.

JFeed, take your time. You'll get there. Continue to be patient. Give yourself credit for the time you have invested to learn. (Nice images BTW)



This is a very important distinction Makescents points out.

MD can be confusing to novices and even experienced collectors. The longer you are in the hobby the less often it will happen.