New Off Center Rotated Die Clash (Mad Clash) On Edith Kanaka'ole 2023 P Quarter

Hey that is a pretty neat find @tig and not something that we commonly see here. Thx for posting it!

I don't think this is a clash from one of the outer letters given it's a raised mark, but it could be from "EDITH KANAKA'OLE".

I have been working with others including some of the error groups and Ken Potter and the only thing that works on the overlay is the "ho" on the outer rim of the reverse. Some others much better than I have tried to amke the centered reverse overlay work and it does not. I can fing them as he posted them on the site in Facebook and all agree the outer rim fits perfect. But I appreciate your feedback, I want to be doubly sure. Mad clash is reviewing it now.

I'm not convinced either.

It appears the bars look similar to the vertical legs of a capital H, or small h, above or below the horizontal H bar. The adjacent o might line up with a MAD clash from the reverse ho.

There looks like there might be a very slight curve to the clashed ho, similar to what is seen along the reverse E ho.

Is it possible to have been misaligned that much, and then clashed? From the reverse edge to the obverse center.

Have any other examples been found?

Nice find and interesting

Here's the overlay I came up with. I have to say the clash mark really does seem to match the lower case h. I checked several other alignments but none of them matched.

I used an image of the obverse, did an insert of the clashed area and then did the normal reverse overlay with an offset and rotation. I can't be sure this is correct, but it's really close!

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Yokozuna, Beautiful job with the overlay. But as I look at what CoinHI and Tanman are saying it does seem to make more sense that the "E" from OLE may be the culprit. I took a really in depth look at the coin this evening and It seems my clash is incused just like the letter "E" and the small line that looked rounded is actually on the rounded cheek of Washington and gives the impression it is rounded. The more I examine the small line clash it seems to me it could be more a partial straight line that looks rounded. Could you put together an inlay that would line up the "E" as stated by CoinHI and Tanman? You do such a great job and I am a hack as I am just starting out with overlays. This has the highest probability of what happened to my coin. Next week I am going to send it to AIG for grading using an artificial intelligence scan and eliminate human error on this one. Thank you everyone for your knowledge and interst in my coin.

Personally I do not see a Die Clash here, and plus a roteted Die Clash OffSet?. If the collars band do not move, the Hammer do not strike on those new presses. So practically it is imposible.

Second on overlay nothing match and it is rise. Some debris let marks on the Die and after has rise press? I doubt but this could be alternative, but also on this is questioned because the life average of a Die it is 20 min to max 40 min and at a frequency of 750 coins a min, the Die will not be internally heat enought to be able to let marks.

I do not have knowleadge that Q&A give those diagnostics and also by internet. Do really Ken answer? Please post the replys.