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Your coin? I think it needs a closer look. The obvious marks on the corners of the devices aren't visible on your images, but the devices look wider on your coin so it maybe a class 6 doubled die. But nothing for sure from the images. Try checking out the same locations of the notches on the two coins I posted and see if there is any evidence there of doubling?
The images of my 1965 show minor doubling. It is so minor I can see it with my scope, but can't get a decent image with a camera. I put the coin back into the collection because it is so minor.
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Common people this coin is definetly a doubled die look at the S it;s so obvious a doubled die indeed nice find wrongalot JAZEC Image: 200943_123.jpg38.57 KB
Edited by Jazzcoins 04/05/2009 10:21 am
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Thank you Jazz, thank you also coop, I am 99.9% sure it is a DDO, the S and T show prominently, and the notching is really strong on the U, S, and T. Thanks again.
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Ok, questions, does anyone think it is worth slabbing? I have looked on the internet ever since I found this one, and I have not been able to find a DDO for the 65 sms Kennedy half, has anyone seen one, besides mine? What do you think it may be worth? Is it too minor to worry about, or enough to keep?
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Wrongalot, Just an observation that based on what I see, your coin appears to be different than the markers coop has posted for a 65 DDO. I'm always looking for distinctive notching to be conclusive--otherwise I risk brain meltdown when attempting to be conclusive with inadequate evidence. Endless controversy can be a sign that more data is needed.  So here's are a few examples of doubled dies on Kennedy half dollars with obvious notching.  (photo credit: foundinrolls) As I'm a world variety collector, here's the sort of notching I look for in doubled dies:  Or it could even be complete separation of the design elements on a coin:  By my of thinking, doubled dies often have something dramatic about them--very little squinting is needed. 
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I'm not agreeing that it is a doubled die. I think it needs a better look to be sure that it is. Comparing a SMS/proof could be entirely different design than a business strike coin. So I would need to see a good close up of wrongalot's coin and a SMS coin to see it they are the same size devices. I'm more of a Cent variety specialist than a half dollar one.
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Ok, again, so does anyone have a suggestion of someone I could send the coin to, in order to find out for sure, and not someone who will charge an arm and a leg?
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wrongalot I know it;s a true doubled die the S is the strongest indication that your coin is a true doubled die raised and rounded image also indications of notching on some of the letters.i would send it in to get attributed and graded of course slabbed. I bet you it will come back as a doubled die I would send it to ken potor he's one of the best check his web site out.I don't have the link but do some research on the net .
JAZEC
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I can appreciate your username "wrongalot". I am often -wrong a lot- about determining what coins are. For instance, my 1996 WAM find = FAIL Although I'm not an expert, barely a novice, I do believe your coin is indeed a doubled die. I can clearly see it in the "S" as well. Congrats on the find. :)
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I'm having some difficulty seeing the details your arrows are pointing to.  What you're seeing may be very clear on your end, but hard to interpret from pics alone (imo)  I have a QX5 too that's given me some very contrasty photos. Something that's helped was taping a piece of tissue over the LED light source--which has diffused the "hard light" effect of screen captures. Well, that's just my take--if your pics provide enough info for the US coin experts, I'll bow to your call. 
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DVC I agree that what is clear on my end may not be clear to others, all I can do is put the photo up and try to point to what I see, which is minor notching on the IN GOD, and the Doubling on WE TRUST. In my opinion this coin is a DDO, and I had hoped that I could show some good photos for others, but, alas, it has not been a fruitful task. sighhh
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Hi, It is definitely a doubled die. Based upon the image, it could be a TDO (tripled die obverse)Believe it or not, they are fairly common on the 90% and 40% silver issues of Kennedy halves. There are several die varieties known for the date you are showing. To send it off for attribution is unfortunately useless as most grading companies are not familiar enough with these to attribute them correctly. Also, the cost of slabbing and attribution would far outweigh the value of the coin. Most Kennedy half die varieties sell in the $20.00 or less area and can easily be cherrypicked at shows or even occasionally from rolls. It is still a nice find but it is not one that you want to spend a lot of money on to attribute. Mark it as a DDO or TDO ,as the case may be and use it as an example of what to look for on Kennedys. Have Fun, Bill PS: Turn the coin over and take a close look at the points of the stars and the rays as some of these will exhibit doubled star points and rays and in fact are DDRs as well.
Edited by foundinrolls 04/09/2009 1:57 pm
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Cool...congrats on the DDO! 
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