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1738 8 Reales Counterstamped - Ebay Auction From China

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 Posted 12/24/2023  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jecz79 to your friends list
An 1738 8 reales would be a good host for the crowned shield stamp.
The problem I am seeing immediately is the stamp. The crown is too high. I do not think it genuine.
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 Posted 12/25/2023  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Perhaps incorrect serif on the I and T as well. I could not find this on other examples of the 1738 (but only looked at a dozen)
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 Posted 12/26/2023  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wizened to your friends list
I vote for it being fake. How is it that a seller with so little feedback gets such a rare coin to sell?

Looking carefully at the bottom of the letters, it seems that the T in "ET" and the R in "REX" have indentations, whereas from my limited look in real coins those letters have flat bottoms. I have seen that indentation serif in real coins, but it does not seem to appear in 1738 coins.

That seems to be a very high quality fake. Who knows, coin in hand, you might accept it as real. Or maybe the weight is off, or the material (although I suspect for such a coin they would have used .900 silver).

So much crap on ebay. I keep seeing the guy from Poland sell and sell stuff that should not fool anybody, but gets bids, and sometimes gets bids up to nominal value of the coin (if were real). After awhile and getting complaints he just re-boots with another name.

I have noticed another seller and ask others to look at his stuff:
https://www.ebay.com/str/thechinacollectors

Many nice coins, not obviously fake to look at them. However every single one is pristine silver, like a coin minted this year. How could every one of his coins be obtained in this condition? Very little bidding on these coins, which start at $25, which indicates that most other collectors are skeptical of them.
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 Posted 12/26/2023  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Bidding is over 300 on this fake
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 Posted 12/27/2023  07:37 am  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
Listing removed by ebay.
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 Posted 12/27/2023  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Glad it's gone!
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 Posted 12/30/2023  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list

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Listing removed by eBay

It has returned...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166525712849

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 Posted 12/30/2023  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Whack-a-mole, realeswatcher. I forgot to note the seller's ID but I think it's the same one (at least they have the same pair of gloves for sale). The batch of phonies liufei84154 is selling now is much lower quality than the last time - obviously cast coins.
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 Posted 12/30/2023  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Wow, with the same name and everything. ebay is the pits. I wonder if those bids are shill bids to make it seem like a legit coin with collector interest.
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 Posted 01/02/2024  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Back up to $286
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 Posted 01/02/2024  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Up to $393 and still going. The winner is going to be very unhappy when they go to resell this one.
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 Posted 01/02/2024  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list

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ebay is the pits. I wonder if those bids are shill bids to make it seem like a legit coin with collector interest.


The normal way to figure that out doesn;t work for a new account like this.
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 Posted 01/02/2024  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
It's been removed again!
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 Posted 01/02/2024  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Excellent news, captainmandrake. I had filed a report on it days ago. But it will just be relisted - again...
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 Posted 01/02/2024  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
Indubitably! Was looking at ebay listings today...so many fakes!
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