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Cartwheel Twopence 1797

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 Posted 01/13/2024  2:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zookeeperz to your friends list
Proof to me has all the signs minute detail and everything is so sharp . I believe it is KT1a (early soho) K .: on shoulder fold 4 berries of roughly equal size . Reverse 2 rows of waves below Britannia Soho without stop.The wave crest on the extreme right points to the H of soho . Ship has an ensign and 2 ropes hanging below the bowspirit. Notes appear to suggest plain copper specimens also exist
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 Posted 01/13/2024  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list
Again thank you all for your comments.
I've ordered one of the books you sugested Can't wait untill it arrives.

Since I have no knowlegde of copper of bronezed coin. How do you tell the difference if this is a proof strike? The coin weighs 56.90 grams.

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 Posted 01/16/2024  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar 1935 to your friends list
Im not too familar with those Soho issues, but the extreme sharpness of the strike and the light mirrored fields make me think its a proof in the PR-58/60 range with lots of cabinet friction and rim nicks. If its a business strike its the best strike I have seen for a KGIII.

For the TPG, I'm fairly sure they wouldn't be too kind with it, proof or not, at least raw you get to handle it !
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 Posted 01/17/2024  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spyro to your friends list
@denkan re books... Enjoy!
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 Posted 01/20/2024  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Battersea Dogs Home to your friends list
As sharp as the design is, the rims don't look good enough for a proof.

If you want to collect Soho, get yourself a copy of Peck. Either 1st (1960) or 2nd (1964) edition would be ok. Full title is English Copper, Tin and Bronze Coins in the British Museum 1558-1958.
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 Posted 11/19/2024  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list
Well I send this one to PCGS mainly for getting it in a holder to protect it. Ofc I was curious about the grade too since I know little about this type of coin.

Zookeeperz got the PR right although he was abit harder on the grade than PCGS. I think I need to work on my photo setup/skills

PCGS graded this one PR64BN.
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 Posted 11/19/2024  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list
Great news! Congratulations!
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 Posted 11/19/2024  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list
Great news & Lovely coin! How about some Tv pics?
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 Posted 12/14/2024  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denkan to your friends list
Here are the Trueview from PCGS.

Cartwheel-Twopence-1797

The other S-3776 proofs that have photos on PCGS have K:. while this one has K.: are there different proof varieties?
There are 3 Bronzed proofs on PCGSs website and two have K:. and one K.:

All info on varieties I can fins online only seems to be for the one pence coin. Feel free to comment if you have any knowledge on proof varieties or any recomendations on litterature.

/denkan

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 Posted 12/15/2024  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

Quote:
PCGS graded this one PR64BN.
Outstanding!
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Here are the Trueview from PCGS.
Very nice!
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 Posted 12/15/2024  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Congrats, just a dynamite example.
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Congratulations!!!
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 Posted 12/18/2024  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
That's stunningly beautiful and exceptionally rare.
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 Posted 01/06/2025  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list
jisses nu såg jag denna, magisk
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 Posted 01/09/2025  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list

I wish all my Georges were that gorgeous!




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