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Thats exactly where I had it; MS64 5FS but that last step is boarder line. Nevertheless, this one didn't make the cut.
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i would challenge those calling this no FS to go out and look at some slabbed 5FS coins and see what they pass as FS. i looked at the very first coin that came up on ebay as MS64FS PCGS. you are going to find tons of them that look like this  Edited by panzaldi
02/02/2024 08:51 am
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I always yield to solid evidence!  |
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Can't wait for the day when full step designations are stratified... FS 1st class, FS 2nd class, etc.
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http://goccf.com/t/454423#3931147The full steps thing comes up a lot. People here grade super hard according to the literal written criteria. But it's pretty clear that the TPGs don't rigidly follow their own published grading rules for full steps. I would not ever buy a graded slab nickel with "full steps" sight unseen. You have no idea what you will get.
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Brandmeister is correct. differences between not just TPG's regarding FS but within each TPG itself. they don't follow their own guidelines regarding it and some of the coins I've seen with the designation, like the one I posted here, is absolutely ridiculous. I would never buy a slabbed FS designation without assessing the coin myself. |
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Geez, I have read a bunch from panzaldi over the years about full steps. That one is scary! I know contact marks are ok but I did not think ones that obliterated multiple steps were ok. I have rejected quite a few coins with much smaller marks.
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captainkurt. it is, especially if you are a novice and expecting a real FS coin thats designated and really not sure how to assess one so you rely on a TPG. regardless of whats on the slab, grade wise or designation wise, you need to know how to assess any coin that you are purchasing and not trust the slab. |
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you need to know how to assess any coin that you are purchasing and not trust the slab. Totally agree! Pricing and quality vary dramatically for some coins with the exact same grade on slabs. The below photo shows what would be considered a full step Jefferson but would probably not get marked as such on 'my' 2x2's  Quote:
The picture shows a coin with 5 Full Steps, and as required in the grading standards, any nicks or abrasions needed to be called out. The coin is still 5 Full Steps, as full steps are a consequence of strike and die wear. Contact marks and abrasions do not change that fact, unless they so obscure the strike details that one can't be certain. -PAK Jefferson nickel Full Step Grading Guide |
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here is the summery from PCGS link MisterT posted. you can see that they don't even follow their own guidelines. Quote:
five separated steps (lines) at the base of Moniticello. Any major disturbance or interruption of these steps or lines, whether caused by contact, planchet problems, or another source, will result in the coin's not being designated FS. Only the slightest weakness on any step (line) is allowed for this designation. |
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Panzaldi - I've got a couple really questionable FS nickels that might have a shot at 5FS with NGC and be worth the value/price. Can you take a look for me? Here is a link to the thread: http://goccf.com/t/459446&whichpage=2#3996555 |
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